edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) (05/30/91)
We recently changed to EtherTalk Phase II. One of my colleagues has an SE/30 with Assante's ethernet card. It seems to be having problems: he can't use NCSA Telnet (MacTCP version) and AppleTalk at the same time. Does this seem familiar to you? -- Gerald A. Edgar Internet: edgar@mps.ohio-state.edu Department of Mathematics Bitnet: EDGAR@OHSTPY The Ohio State University telephone: 614-292-0395 (Office) Columbus, OH 43210 -292-4975 (Math. Dept.) -292-1479 (Dept. Fax)
lamont@convex.com (Bradley Lamont) (05/31/91)
edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes: >We recently changed to EtherTalk Phase II. One of my >colleagues has an SE/30 with Assante's ethernet card. It seems >to be having problems: he can't use NCSA Telnet (MacTCP version) >and AppleTalk at the same time. Does this seem familiar to you? >-- I work at the University of Illinois, setting up and running one of the computer labs. We recently upgraded a Mac SE/30 and Mac IIsi appletalk network connecting to a Fastpath box up to an ethernet system using Asante cards. I have the same problem. I can only use either appletalk or ethertalk, not both. I would be grateful for a solution. Thanks, Brad Lamont lamont@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
gilbertd@cricket.bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) (05/31/91)
>edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes: > >>We recently changed to EtherTalk Phase II. One of my >>colleagues has an SE/30 with Assante's ethernet card. It seems >>to be having problems: he can't use NCSA Telnet (MacTCP version) >>and AppleTalk at the same time. Does this seem familiar to you? Asante has produced at least a few software driver upgrades over the past several months. The current one seems to be version 3.21. This one is recommended for use with System 7 and Ethertalk Phase 2 (in fact earlier versions in a Mac SE w/ Sys 7 and Phase 2 caused that computer to bomb, though Mac 2 and SE/30 seemed okay to me with version 3.1 of the Asante driver). Contact the company for a new EtherTalk Installer disk. OR, if you really mean Appletalk (localtalk) instead of EtherTalk Phase 2, then the answer to your problem may be that you need to look at the MacTCP control panel and switch from Apple/Ethertalk to Ethernet (MacTCP gives you a choice of sending its IP packets thru Apple/EtherTalk or directly into Ethernet. With an ethernet card you always want to choose the latter icon. Then use of MacTCP software is independent of whether your Mac network is set to AppleTalk or Ethertalk phase 1 or phase 2, and independent of whatever zone you may have chosen, and it is faster). In article <lamont.675702579@trojan> lamont@convex.com (Bradley Lamont) writes: >computer labs. We recently upgraded a Mac SE/30 and Mac IIsi appletalk >network connecting to a Fastpath box up to an ethernet system using >Asante cards. I have the same problem. I can only use either appletalk >or ethertalk, not both. I would be grateful for a solution. This is not the same question as above. This is not a problem with Asante cards, but all Macs do this -- you can only connect to one network at a time unless you have software/hardware to route between two or more networks (e.g. Appletalk OR Ethertalk Phase 1 OR Ethertalk Phase 2). With router software running on your Mac like Apple Internet Router, you can connect between Appletalk (Localtalk) and Ethertalk in your Macs with Ethernet cards. A mac with two ethernet cards and A.I.Router can route between Etalk phase 1 and phase 2. The main impact to me of this lies in Laserwriters, which can be placed on Ethertalk with an EtherPrint box or can be connected to a Mac with localtalk cable but that mac cannot simultaneously use the localtalked laserwriter AND any ethertalked file servers, unless that mac has a software router. BTW, Apple Computer, Inc. sells Apple Internet Router for $399/$239 edu. and mailorder places sell the EtherPrint box (by Dayna Communication, Inc) for $350, which is generally a better solution for putting one laserwriter on ethertalk. The software router is better if you have more devices on your localtalk net. Liaison is also a software router (published by Farallon). -- don -- Don Gilbert gilbert@bio.indiana.edu biocomputing office, biology dept., indiana univ., bloomington, in 47405