6600zot@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jason S. White) (06/01/91)
I walked into work today and I found out that someone installed sys 7 on one of the computers I work with. The problem is that they didn't check with me, and I didn't have a chance to prepare things. So, things have gone to pot! The problem that this installation caused was that the NCSA telnet 2.3 (not the MacTCP version) does not work. The first thing I had to do was reset the IP number. When it went on from that I got a "initialization error: driver(E) not installed." Confused by this, I checked the config.tel file and every- thing seemed fine with that file, but it still doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? Can anyone help? -Jason S. White -- Jason S. White | 6600zot@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu | McIntosh Jr. Nuclear Engineering | jsw@sbphy.ucsb.edu | The power Univ. of California | white@sgt-york.lanl.gov | to crush other Sorta Berkeley | u106703@beta.lanl.gov | kids. (SNL)
ccastjs@prism.gatech.EDU (The Amazing Jim Stembridge (06/02/91)
6600zot@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jason S. White) writes: >I walked into work today and I found out that someone installed sys 7 on one >of the computers I work with. The problem is that they didn't check with me, >and I didn't have a chance to prepare things. So, things have gone to pot! >The problem that this installation caused was that the NCSA telnet 2.3 (not >the MacTCP version) does not work. The first thing I had to do was reset the >IP number. When it went on from that I got a "initialization error: driver(E) >not installed." Confused by this, I checked the config.tel file and every- >thing seemed fine with that file, but it still doesn't work. >Has anyone else had this problem? Can anyone help? Yes. The problem is that telnet 2.3 does not work with system 7.0 and appletalk. It will work with MacTCP. But that doesn't do you any good does it? I mailed to ncsa's help address and the girl that wrote me back said the same thing. She didn't seem to understand that I can't use MacTCP cause I don't have an ethernet connection to that machine. Anyway, she did say a new release was soon to come out (but it sounded to me to be another MacTCP version). Bottom line is you can't use telnet with sys7 and appletalk till they decide to write another version that is compatible. Otherwise use 6.0.7. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ccastjs@prism.gatech.edu Jim Stembridge, 3037 Springdale Road, Hapeville, Georgia 30354 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick) (06/03/91)
ccastjs@prism.gatech.EDU (Jim Stembridge) writes: >Yes. The problem is that telnet 2.3 does not work with system 7.0 and >appletalk. It will work with MacTCP. But that doesn't do you any good >does it? I mailed to ncsa's help address and the girl that wrote me >back said the same thing. She didn't seem to understand that I can't >use MacTCP cause I don't have an ethernet connection to that machine. You can use MacTCP over AppleTalk; you do not need an Ethernet connection. MacTCP works just fine using a Kinetics or Cayman gateway. pr -- Pete Resnick (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?) Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC Internet/ARPAnet/EDUnet : resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu BITNET (if no other way) : FREE0285@UIUCVMD
jonh@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Jon Howell) (06/04/91)
Telnet doesn't work with System 7? So far the only problem I've had is that Telnet won't find it's config file automatically. Once I point it out to Telnet, it seems to work great. Yep, I'm using an appletalk link to an ethernet to a UNIX machine. ---Jon -- _____ ___ _ _ Jon Howell: jonh@pogo.wv.tek.com | My life's quest is to |_ _| / _ \ | \ | | 6417 Sorrel | find a computer to call for a _| | | |_| | | \ \ | West Linn, OR 97068 | UUCP login (mail & news) that's |___| \___/ |_| \_| 503/657-7964 | local to 503/657- or 206/756-
tony@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (Antonio Querubin) (06/04/91)
In article <11002@pogo.WV.TEK.COM> jonh@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Jon Howell) writes: >Telnet doesn't work with System 7? So far the only problem I've had >is that Telnet won't find it's config file automatically. Once I point >it out to Telnet, it seems to work great. If you're running NCSA Telnet, it will look for the config.tel file in the same folder that the application resides. The only thing I had to change when converting from system 6.0.7 to system 7 was the default font. Under 6.0.7 I was using the Monaco font at point size 12. When system 7 was installed, the session window overran the right edge of the screen so I ended up switching to Courier. Otherwise, everything works the same. -- Antonio Querubin tony@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu / ah6bw@uhm.ampr.org / querubin@uhunix.bitnet
kr0u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin William Ryan) (06/05/91)
6600zot@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jason S. White) >I walked into work today and I found out that someone installed sys 7 on one >of the computers I work with. The problem is that they didn't check with me, >and I didn't have a chance to prepare things. So, things have gone to pot! > >The problem that this installation caused was that the NCSA telnet 2.3 (not >the MacTCP version) does not work. The first thing I had to do was reset the >IP number. When it went on from that I got a "initialization error: driver(E) >not installed." Confused by this, I checked the config.tel file and every- >thing seemed fine with that file, but it still doesn't work. You might also check to make certain your Ethernet drivers are installed. If the previous system was trashed and the driver wasn't reinstalled, neither MacTCP nor anything else can use the card. You might have to dig out your distribution or Apple disks and reinstall ethernet software. (Based on sad experience here...) Note that Shiva has not yet released 7.0 compatible drivers for their Ethernet cards. I've been trying to get them to call back for about a week now, as we were supposed to become a beta site for the new software but haven't received it yet. As far as I know, however, the Apple boards 7.0 compatible drivers are OK. kwr Internet: kr0u+@andrew.cmu.edu
gaujct@lure.latrobe.edu.au (06/05/91)
In article <13308@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>, tony@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (Antonio Querubin) writes: > In article <11002@pogo.WV.TEK.COM> jonh@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Jon Howell) writes: >>Telnet doesn't work with System 7? So far the only problem I've had >>is that Telnet won't find it's config file automatically. Once I point >>it out to Telnet, it seems to work great. > > If you're running NCSA Telnet, it will look for the config.tel file in the same > folder that the application resides. The only thing I had to change when > converting from system 6.0.7 to system 7 was the default font. Under 6.0.7 I > was using the Monaco font at point size 12. When system 7 was installed, the > session window overran the right edge of the screen so I ended up switching to > Courier. Otherwise, everything works the same. > > -- > Antonio Querubin > tony@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu / ah6bw@uhm.ampr.org / querubin@uhunix.bitnet I also had a problem using Monaco 12 with System 7. The visual appearance of the text was as if Telnet did not have the bitmapped information for this size. Courier gave no problems, although the visual effect is nowhere near as nice as Monaco. My solution was to replace the Monaco 12 font that came with System 7 with my old Monaco 12 from System 6.07. Now Monaco 12 displays as it should. John Traeger Dept of Chemistry La Trobe University Bundoora AUSTRALIA
brian@natinst.com (Brian H. Powell) (06/05/91)
Okay, what's the real scoop? I've got one user with System 7 and
Telnet 2.3 that has no problems. I've got another user with the same setup
(almost) and no success.
The difference is one is on a LocalTalk network connected to a FastPath4
and the other (the one that doesn't work) is on a LocalTalk network connected
to a GatorBox CS. Both routers are configured for Phase 2 LocalTalk and
Phase 2 EtherTalk. No response yet from Cayman. Any ideas?
I would hate to have to buy a site license for MacTCP ($2500) just to run
telnet. Is a System 7-compatible non-MacTCP version of NCSA Telnet impossible?
Briandmittman@beowulf.JPL.NASA.GOV (David Mittman) (06/11/91)
The problem with the default FONT can be traced to incorrect FONT/FOND resources in the application. ResEdit jocks can use ResEdit to fix the problem. It should be fixed in the next release (at least I reported it to ncsa...) - David