brian@natinst.com (Brian H. Powell) (06/13/91)
My original posting mentioned that I have a FastPath 4 and a GatorBox CS. I was wondering, if I were to upgrade the FastPath 4, to what should I upgrade it. The two obvious choices are a FastPath 5 and a GatorBox CS. I got only a few replies, mostly commenting that Shiva's support is good, and that people love their FastPath's. The most helpful reply is given below. I talked to a Cayman salesman, who downplayed the importance of the FastPath 5. (In fact to the extent that I wondered if he was desparate, and I really should consider the FastPath 5 more seriously.) I talked to a Shiva salesman, who was a typical salesman. Unfortunately, he didn't know his product very well, so I didn't get much out of him. (He also tried to tell me the history of the FastPath. He got it wrong.) Yet another issue that's come up (which I'll fully report in another posting to this group) is that NCSA Telnet (non-MacTCP version) works under System 7 with the FastPath 4, and doesn't work with the GatorBox. The bug, according to Cayman, is Apple's. But Cayman will come out with a workaround. The problem: Cayman won't come out with a workaround for a few more months. Personally, I think this is atrocious. I'm leaning toward upgrading the FastPath 4 to a FastPath 5, if for no other reason, to give it a try. Thanks for all who responded. Brian From: woody@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Bill Woodcock) Howdy. I went to the FastPath 5 announcment in Redwood City last Tuesday, and I've been working on an article about the FP5, which I can send you a copy of, if you'd like. My (provisional) take on the situation is as follows: The GatorBox is still slightly second rate as far as throughput, while the FastPath has again taken the performance lead over other routers in its class. Shiva has done a total redesign of the FastPath. The board looks a lot more like other Shiva products than anything like an old Kinetics box. Unfortunately the feature set isn't as good as that of the Gatorbox, is you intend to use th boxes to gateway Mac and PC traffic to an Ethernet with lots of Unix-based services on it. In terms of support, I'd agree with your evaluation. Cayman's support has always been outstanding, while I've felt that Shiva's, while not too bad, could use some improvement. If you feel that the performance of the FP4 you have now is adequate, and you just want the new management features, you can get a PROM upgrade which includes those, and supports the new atalkatab and K-Star for $149, or you can get an upgrade that also includes a fan, another 256K of RAM, and a new case for $299.