[comp.sys.mac.comm] Eudora help needed

molloy@emerald.icd.teradyne.com (Phil Molloy) (06/18/91)

It appears that I may have expected more of Eudora than I should have.  Since
I am rather new at using this package (1 day) can someone enlighten me?
Facts:
	Mac+ running Sys 7.0 at one end
	Sun SS1 running OS4.1.1 at the other end as the pop 3 server.

1) Using the modem communications tool, I expected Eudora to log into my
UNIX account then attempt the telnet connection.  It does not.  It simply makes
the connection then immediately starts telnet.  Am I supposed to put a modem
on my UNIX network that is always logged into an account?  No!  That would be
silly/stupid.  In looking at the setup/preferences of Eudora, I see now that 
there is no place to specify any send-expect-send strings to facilitate a login 
session.  I now assume that this capability does not exist. Am I wrong? 

2) Using the serial communications tool (after establishing the connection/
account with MacLayers) I am able to read mail.  I had to fiddle with telnet
because it doesn't accept what Eudora sends "telnet name port /stream".  Note
the space between the port number and /stream.  The problem now is that the
connection often fails.  I have to keep trying to get new mail before it 
succeeds.  There are error messages in the prompt/alert box of Eurora but they
don't stay around long enought to read.  My next step is to put something 
in the path that will log all i/o to a file so I can see what's happening.

3) Sending mail fails miserably.  The connection to port 25 is made, but the
protocol aborts.  Is this because I am running sendmail on my SS1 like this:
	/usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q1h
If I add the -bs switch, then telnet is refused access.

Any ideas?  Any clue where I can get help?

So far I like the interface that Eudora presents.  Give it the ability to
establish an account and I would be happy.  My use of a mail reader at home
is to check in during the evening and the weekend to catch any problems that 
have to be dealt with.  My phone is rather busy with 3 kids and a wife and I 
can't afford to keep a connection open while I try to read my 100 mail 
messages per day.

Thanks,
Phil
-- 
Philip E. Molloy  KA1CD
molloy@icd.teradyne.com

dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (06/18/91)

In article <15206@renoir.attain.teradyne.com> molloy@emerald.icd.teradyne.com (Phil Molloy) writes:
>It appears that I may have expected more of Eudora than I should have.

>[problems with using Eudora over a modem deleted]

>Any clue where I can get help?

RTFAB (Read The Fine About Box :-)), where you can find the author's address.

>Any ideas?

RTFM :-), Appendix D specifically.  There's no reason you shouldn't be able
to make Eudora work in your situation.  Might take ten minutes with ResEdit,
and another ten minutes diddling on your UNIX box.

If your version of the manual is too old to have Appendix D, then get a
new copy by anon ftp to ftp.cso.uiuc.edu, mac/eudora subdirectory, doc.i.hqx.

If you can't do anon ftp, or you don't want to print out the manual, you
can now order a Eudora package from UIUC.  The price isn't quite set yet,
but I expect it will be around $20 for the 80 page printed manual, three
disks, and postage.  Email me if you want details.  [This is NOT a departure
from our policy of free Eudora distribution; we're just recovering costs
from people who don't use the standard (anon ftp) distribution channel.]
--
Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office
Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu  UUCP: uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!s-dorner