blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) (07/06/90)
In article <1990Jun28.080141.3017@dhw68k.cts.com> in comp.binaires.mac rwilson@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Randy Wilson) writes: |[Continuum 1.03 - part 1 of 4] |Here is Continuum version 1.03. Changes since 1.01 (last public version): |1. Updated to run on all machines I've had a chance to test it on, and | hopefully this time on most future machines. Unfortunately not all operating systems. When I run it, I get a dialog which says: "Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with many INITS. [...]" It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes. The moral of this story? Four or so years ago when Apple said not to use the second graphics page, they meant it. -- Brian L. Matthews blm@6sceng.UUCP
derek@leah.Albany.Edu (Derek L. / MacLover) (07/06/90)
In article <446@6sceng.UUCP> blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: >Unfortunately not all operating systems. When I run it, I get a dialog >which says: >"Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with >many INITS. [...]" Shoot, and I was going to ftp it sometime soon. So it won't work with any of the System software versions 6.0 and higher? That bites... >Brian L. Matthews blm@6sceng.UUCP Derek L. PS -- Solarian II is an excellent Mac II game. -- + + One Mac is worth exactly 2.317 PCs (based on current price indices) + + Dislaimer: I was asleep. ---}=-------------------------` ++ All the busy little creatures / Chasing out their destinies --Peart ++
jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (07/06/90)
In article <446@6sceng.UUCP>, blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: >"Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with >many INITS. [...]" Well, I have 6.0.5, several INITS, and it works. Not with the RAM cache, but I can turn that off. >It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes. It is indeed. >The moral of this story? Four or so years ago when Apple said not to use >the second graphics page, they meant it. Yes, it should be rewritten so as not to use it. However, the problem was with a *bug* in 6.0 (according to the online docs). Again, it works with 6.0.5. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Price | Internet: jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu 5-145 Knudsen Hall | BITNET: price@uclaph UCLA Dept. of Physics | DECnet: uclapp::jprice Los Angeles, CA 90024-1547 | YellNet: 213-825-2259 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
good@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Dave GOODGER) (07/06/90)
*****
* blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) did cause to be written:
*
* Unfortunately not all operating systems. When I run it, I get a dialog
* which says:
*
* "Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with
* many INITS. [...]"
*
* It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes.
*****
Check out the Notes... item in the Apple menu. It mentions things which
will go wrong.
Luckily, nothing seems to bother it on a 68030 machine. I've played it
on my SE/30, system 6.0.4, with about a dozen INITs and a 256K Ram Cache,
with no problems.
--
David J. Goodger /\ "This theory, that I have, that is to say, which is
good@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca \/ mine, is mine . . . that it is." - Anne Elk [Miss]
"You're in therapy?" ... "Aren't you?"rob@cbnewsk.att.com (rob) (07/06/90)
From article <3651@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca>, by good@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Dave GOODGER): > ***** > * blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) did cause to be written: > * > * Unfortunately not all operating systems. When I run it, I get a dialog > * which says: > * > * "Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with > * many INITS. [...]" > * > * It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes. > ***** > I just put it on a bootable floppy and when I feel like playing it (it's awesome) I restart off that disk. Not too much of a problem for a nice diversion.....:-) .....rob
rmh@apple.com (Rick Holzgrafe) (07/07/90)
In article <446@6sceng.UUCP> blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: > "Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with > many INITS. [...]" > > It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes. Runs fine on my IIfx, System 6.0.5, 512K ram cache on, grey-scale monitor. I was impressed. > The moral of this story? Four or so years ago when Apple said not to use > the second graphics page, they meant it. Yup. That's why I was impressed. :-) ========================================================================== Rick Holzgrafe | {sun,voder,nsc,mtxinu,dual}!apple!rmh Software Engineer | AppleLink HOLZGRAFE1 rmh@apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. | "All opinions expressed are mine, and do 20525 Mariani Ave. MS: 77-A | not necessarily represent those of my Cupertino, CA 95014 | employer, Apple Computer Inc."
ireland@ac.dal.ca (07/07/90)
In article <3651@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca>, good@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Dave GOODGER) writes: > ***** > * blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) did cause to be written: > * > * Unfortunately not all operating systems. When I run it, I get a dialog > * which says: > * > * "Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with > * many INITS. [...]" > * > * It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes. > ***** > > > -- Continuum is a very nice game and can be played on a MacPlus with System 6.0.3 and 6.0.5 (6.0.4 probably works too, but I haven't tried it). It has problems with some inits, but I haven't had a chance to figure out which ones yet. The easiest thing to do is to used init/CDEV 3.0. When I want to play Continuum, I restart my machine and hold down the "0" key on the keyboard. This causes the macine to startup with no inits loaded after init/CDEV and Continuum works fine. When I'm done playing Continuum, I restart again and let all the inits I use load normally. If someone figures out which inits cause problems for Continuum, then a set of inits minus the offending init(s) could be defined with init/CDEV to allow use of some inits. It's too bad more inits (really CDEVs in this case) don't allow for an option of turning themselves off when certain applications are being run like Boomerang does. Keith Conover Keith@ac.dal.ca
dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (07/07/90)
In article <446@6sceng.UUCP>, blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: > In article <1990Jun28.080141.3017@dhw68k.cts.com> in comp.binaires.mac rwilson@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Randy Wilson) writes: > |[Continuum 1.03 - part 1 of 4] > |Here is Continuum version 1.03. Changes since 1.01 (last public version): > |1. Updated to run on all machines I've had a chance to test it on, and > | hopefully this time on most future machines. > > Unfortunately not all operating systems. When I run it, I get a dialog > which says: > > "Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with > many INITS. [...]" > ...... > Brian L. Matthews blm@6sceng.UUCP It works with the Ram Cache on (64k), with System 6.0.2, and with many INITs (about 20 or 30 of them). The machine is a MacSE. dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
mike@dayton.UUCP (Mike Baillargeon) (07/11/90)
In article <446@6sceng.UUCP> blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: >"Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with >many INITS. [...]" > >It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes. >-- >Brian L. Matthews blm@6sceng.UUCP I am running 6.02 on an SE with one meg. I do have to turn off nearly everything except my anti-virus stuff to make it run, but it does work. I really like this game, it is addictive. Good animation also. It is worth trying at least once. --Mike +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mike Baillargeon | As expected all opinions stated | | mike@dayton.DHDSC.MN.ORG | are my own and mine alone. | |----------------------------------------|---------------------------------| | If I am elected, 2 Macintosh's in every office. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
leo@duttnph.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) (07/12/90)
mike@dayton.UUCP (Mike Baillargeon) writes: >In article <446@6sceng.UUCP> blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: >>"Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with >>many INITS. [...]" >> >>It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes. If you read the on-line info, you will see that it *does* work for all systems < 6.0 and > 6.0 (i.e. >= 6.01). Only system 6.0 *exactly* does not work, because of a bug in that version of the system. >I am running 6.02 on an SE with one meg. I do have to turn off nearly >everything except my anti-virus stuff to make it run, but it does work. And I run it with 6.05 on a Plus (with 4 meg). Thanks to John Rotenstein's INIT cdev, turning everything temporarily off at start-up is no problem. >I really like this game, it is addictive. Good animation also. It is worth >trying at least once. Let me second that. The documentation could be better though, and why in heavens name is it not possible to save a game? Not that I have come past level 5 yet, but in the future I might... Excellent game! -- Leo Breebaart (leo @ duttnph.tudelft.nl)
softa@vax.SPD.3Com.Com (Douglas Phillips) (07/12/90)
derek@leah.Albany.Edu (Derek L. / MacLover) writes: >>"Continuum does not work with the Ram Cache on, with System 6.0, or with >>many INITS. [...]" > Shoot, and I was going to ftp it sometime soon. So it won't work >with any of the System software versions 6.0 and higher? That bites... > Derek L. Works fine on my Mac IIfx with sys 6.0.5 and a ton of inits Douglas
jkm@mbunix.mitre.org (Millen) (07/12/90)
I missed part 3 of the Continuum 1.03 posting. Could someone please e-mail it to me? advTHANKSance. Jon Millen jkm@mbunix.mitre.org
rw23+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Ward) (07/12/90)
Anyone have any suggestions or tricks for completing level 60? I've made it to 60 with over a dozen ships remaining, but I can't finish it even with the unlimited ships in practice mode.
wiseman@tellabs.com (Jeff Wiseman) (07/13/90)
In article <leo.647718979@duttnph> leo@duttnph.tudelft.nl writes: >mike@dayton.UUCP (Mike Baillargeon) writes: >>In article <446@6sceng.UUCP> blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes: >>> >>>It looked like it might have been a nice game, but into the Trash it goes. I can't BELIEVE that he really TRASHED it!!! :-) >And I run it with 6.05 on a Plus (with 4 meg). Thanks to John Rotenstein's >INIT cdev, turning everything temporarily off at start-up is no problem. Yea, INIT cdev should come bundled with Continuum. :-) >>I really like this game, it is addictive. Good animation also. It is worth >>trying at least once. Yup! and it's a lot more SAFE than drugs! >The documentation could be better though, and why in >heavens name is it not possible to save a game? Because if you get to level 58, you're expected to take 2 hours to do it! If you were fresh when you sat down at level 56, well...that's kinda like cheating isn't it? :-) >Not that I have come past level 5 yet, but in the future I might... I STILL enjoy trying to make it through level 9 with one ship and still with fuel remaining. I have been able to make it to level 25 from level 1 before getting blown away. I would like to know how high others have been able to get under normal operation. (eg. not running 1.03 on a color screen where everything slows down dramatically). Has anyone made it over level 35 from a level1 start, not getting extra ships, etc? -- Jeff Wiseman: ....uunet!tellab5!wiseman OR wiseman@TELLABS.COM
lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) (07/13/90)
In article <wab9dqm00jWQE3roQ8@andrew.cmu.edu> rw23+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Ward) writes:
: Anyone have any suggestions or tricks for completing level 60? I've
: made it to 60 with over a dozen ships remaining, but I can't finish it
: even with the unlimited ships in practice mode.
Well, I definitely need a lot more than a dozen ships, but I have
completed it. In fact with practice, one can start at the beginning and
arrive at level 60 with more than 30 ships, which is sufficient. (Of
course you need to set aside more than 2 hours of time - sure wish I
could save a game!)
Anyway, you pretty much need to take a 2-pronged approach; the passage
in the center is next to impassable, due to the strong wind nearby.
Other than that you just have to practice a lot. With practice you can
usually destroy at least one enemy per ship. Just practice patiently.
You need to learn how to orient the ship and just the right amount of
fuel to use to make it thru the narrow passages. But it definitely can
be done.
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(206) 865-3365 internet: lbaum@atc.boeing.com madsen@bastille.ics.uci.edu (Rodney Kent Madsen) (07/14/90)
In <wab9dqm00jWQE3roQ8@andrew.cmu.edu>rw23+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Ward) writes: >Anyone have any suggestions or tricks for completing level 60? I've >made it to 60 with over a dozen ships remaining, but I can't finish it >even with the unlimited ships in practice mode. No, but I can verify that it's impossible ;-) -- R. Kent Madsen | Have you ever vomited as a result of doing one madsen@ics.uci.edu (ARPA) | set of curls? If not, then you simply don't office: (714) 856-4047 | know what hard work is. | --Arthur Jones, Nautilus Sports/Medical Industries
lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) (07/14/90)
In article <3001@tellab5.tellabs.com> wiseman@tellabs.com (Jeff Wiseman) writes:
:
: >The documentation could be better though, and why in
: >heavens name is it not possible to save a game?
:
: Because if you get to level 58, you're expected to take 2 hours to do it! If
: you were fresh when you sat down at level 56, well...that's kinda like cheating
: isn't it? :-)
Why should I have to sit down for a 2 hour stretch? I just
pause the game a go away for awhile. Of course it ties up my
Mac, but it isn't logically different from saving the game,
except that I can't resume from the saved state more than
once.
:
: >Not that I have come past level 5 yet, but in the future I might...
:
: I STILL enjoy trying to make it through level 9 with one ship and still with
: fuel remaining. I have been able to make it to level 25 from level 1 before
: getting blown away. I would like to know how high others have been able to get
: under normal operation. (eg. not running 1.03 on a color screen where
: everything slows down dramatically).
:
: Has anyone made it over level 35 from a level1 start, not getting extra ships,
: etc?
Yes, I've made it all the way thru level 60 from start without
asking for extra ships. It takes a LONG time!!
:
:
: --
: Jeff Wiseman: ....uunet!tellab5!wiseman OR wiseman@TELLABS.COM
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I don't know what the fuss is about with the INIT's. I play Continuum 1.03
on a IIcx with 5 Meg's and running the following INIT's: SAM,Eradicator,
GateKeeper, Appleshare, HierDA, DeskPict, MacsBugs, Kolor, Shiva, SoundMaster,
Tops, TOPs Inbox, and TopSpool and the game plays fine. I have not experienced
any crashes to date. Also it is a great game but level 60 does appear to be
impossible.
Scott Georgejprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (07/17/90)
In article <27932@bcsaic.UUCP>, lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) writes: >In article <wab9dqm00jWQE3roQ8@andrew.cmu.edu> rw23+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Ward) writes: >: Anyone have any suggestions or tricks for completing level 60? I've >: made it to 60 with over a dozen ships remaining, but I can't finish it >: even with the unlimited ships in practice mode. > >Well, I definitely need a lot more than a dozen ships, but I have >completed it. I did it too, yesterday. I cheated, though. I started at level 60, and gave myself more ships every so often. I don't know how many it took; I lost track at 20 or so... :) >Anyway, you pretty much need to take a 2-pronged approach; the passage >in the center is next to impassable, due to the strong wind nearby. >Other than that you just have to practice a lot. With practice you can >usually destroy at least one enemy per ship. Just practice patiently. >You need to learn how to orient the ship and just the right amount of >fuel to use to make it thru the narrow passages. But it definitely can >be done. I agree with the strategy. Start on the right; it's easier (I think, anyway). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Price | Internet: jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu 5-145 Knudsen Hall | BITNET: price@uclaph UCLA Dept. of Physics | DECnet: uclapp::jprice Los Angeles, CA 90024-1547 | YellNet: 213-825-2259 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
wiseman@tellabs.com (Jeff Wiseman) (07/18/90)
In article <28026@bcsaic.UUCP> lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) writes: >In article <3001@tellab5.tellabs.com> wiseman@tellabs.com (Jeff Wiseman) writes: >: Has anyone made it over level 35 from a level1 start, not getting extra ships, >: etc? > >Yes, I've made it all the way thru level 60 from start without >asking for extra ships. It takes a LONG time!! Great! That makes me feel much better knowing that it really IS possible :-) (Normally I only show my friends level 60 just for wows) Dark Castle can take a LONG time to finish as well (I have sat at it for 4 hours once 'till 3 in the morning and still botched up the knight's chamber! I wonder if the Guiness book of records has anything on the longest game of Continuum yet :-) -- Jeff Wiseman: ....uunet!tellab5!wiseman OR wiseman@TELLABS.COM
brianw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Brian Wilson) (07/20/90)
(Jeff Wiseman) > I wonder if the Guiness book of records has anything on the longest game of > Continuum yet :-) Speaking of records, what are people's top scores like? And how long did you play the game before getting this top score? I basically got my high score a year after I started playing Continuum in 1985. -- Brian "playing Continuum is a form of meditation" Wilson
lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) (07/22/90)
In article <105860001@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com> brianw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Brian Wilson) writes:
: (Jeff Wiseman)
: > I wonder if the Guiness book of records has anything on the longest game of
: > Continuum yet :-)
:
: Speaking of records, what are people's top scores like? And how long did
: you play the game before getting this top score? I basically got my high
: score a year after I started playing Continuum in 1985.
:
: -- Brian "playing Continuum is a form of meditation" Wilson
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