[comp.sys.mac.games] SimEarth compared to Balance of the Planet

fdeming@lappi.uucp (Frank Deming {x6088}) (12/12/90)

  How does SimEarth compare to Chris Crawford's two games Balance of the
Planet and (the name escapes me)?
 
					 Frank Deming
					 fdeming@aecmail.prime.com

zippy@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts) (12/18/90)

In article <1141@cvbnetPrime.COM> fdeming@lappi.uucp (Frank Deming {x6088}) writes:



     How does SimEarth compare to Chris Crawford's two games Balance of the
   Planet and (the name escapes me)?

					    Frank Deming
					    fdeming@aecmail.prime.com


Chris Crawford currently has made *four* Mac games:

	Balance of Power
	Balance of Power '90
	Balance of the Planet
	???	<- I saw it last week, can't remember the name

Anywhose, SimEarth v. BotP:

SimEarth is a ``God's eye view'' game.  You terraform planets, hurl
meteors, cause earthquakes, and in general promote the evolution of a
robust planet.

Good points:  you can cause intelligent carnivorous plants to evolve.
	lots of good earth science, evolution, earthy-crunchy info
Bad points: game occaisionally crashes, has `look up word in manual' 
	protection scheme


Balance of the Planet: you are given powers to levy taxes on
activities that harm the enviroment, and can allocate funds in areas
that benefit it.

Good points: politically correct (yak!  I *hate* that phrase), 
	lot's of good info on the ecology, pollution, quality of life
Bad points: very easy to `win'.  Just tax the hell out of the bad
	things, and dump money on the good ones.
	*requires*hard*disk*  Auuuugh!  Crawford made lots of
	hinky-dinky data files that all have to be in one folder.
	Even if you have 4M memory, you can't run this without
	loading the stuff onto a ram disk.

I bought both.  Were I to choose, I'd pick SimEarth if only because it
offers more variety.

--Pat

APPLEREP@MTUS5.BITNET (12/18/90)

(Talk about how Balance of the Planet is easy to win and "Politically Correct")

Hmm.  I have this game, and I have not come to the same conclusions.  First
of all, I have not found it very easy to win at all.  Trying to implement a
philosophy of "Taxing the Hell out of everything Bad" can lead to different
results than you initially think.  If I have ever been able to make any
headway in BotP, it has been through careful consideration of all of the wide
ranging concequences of my desicions--usually leading to a modified "centrist"
policy.  Of course, your milage may vary.

I really think that the esteemed Mr. Crawford did not write (or intend to write
) a program that is "Politically Correct." (Assuming you mean "Politically
Correct" in its usual interpetation--kind of leftward leaning.)  Rather, he
has created a program that tries to cut through all of the ideological crap
(pardon the expression) on both sides of the environmental debate.  People
with "Radical Environmentalist" viewpoints find that their agendas may just
backfire causing worse problems, and "Industrialists" see the ugly end result
of the road _they_ travel.

This is why I like the game so much, and like demoing it to other people.
Peoples' eyes get opened--they have to think about something deeply,
thoroughly--look at a problem from someone else's perspective--and maybe
even learn something from the "Enemy Camp".  Needless to say, it makes a
great conversation starter.

BTW, you can adjust the "perspective" that you play with (meaning that if
you personally favor, say, Nuclear Power, that policies favoring Nukes will
help the status of the planet).  However, I just play it straight.

Tom Amberg

barry@playfair.Stanford.EDU (Barrett P. Eynon) (12/18/90)

In article <ZIPPY.90Dec17182027@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> zippy@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts) writes:
>
>Chris Crawford currently has made *four* Mac games:
>
>	Balance of Power
>	Balance of Power '90
>	Balance of the Planet
>	???	<- I saw it last week, can't remember the name

Just to set the record straight, Chris Crawford has programmed at least 6 Mac 
games:

Patton vs. Rommell
Trust & Betrayal/The Legacy of Siboot
Balance of Power
Balance of Power '90
Balance of the Planet
Global Dilemma: Guns and Butter

--
Barry Eynon
barry@playfair.stanford.edu