ullevig@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Ullevig Zachary A) (01/30/91)
In article <3143@ux.acs.umn.edu> clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) writes: >I'm surprised that there's been so little talk about Armor Alley of late...I'm >really impressed with it. > >For those that have played it, though, I have a tactical question. > >On level five, there is a large bunker very close to the player's lines, >behind which are two AA guns. I can't get past these guns. Any ideas? > I fly past the bunker dodging the AA guns. I then approach them from behind at low level and destroy them with my missiles. It takes 2 missiles to destroy one, so it takes two trips. You also have to be careful that the computer doesn't get a chance to repair them while your convoy approaches. ______________________________________________________________________________ | Zach Ullevig | "I like maxims that don't | | University of Colorado | encourage behavior modification." | | ullevig@tramp.colorado.edu | --Calvin | |____________________________________________________________________________|
ylsul@athena.mit.edu (Young Sul) (01/30/91)
In article <3143@ux.acs.umn.edu> clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) writes: >I'm surprised that there's been so little talk about Armor Alley of late...I'm >really impressed with it. > >For those that have played it, though, I have a tactical question. > >On level five, there is a large bunker very close to the player's lines, >behind which are two AA guns. I can't get past these guns. Any ideas? I just got by that bunker last night! I believe it is inhabited initially by the enemy, and, since it is a super-bunker, you can't destroy it. The AA is a drag too. I got by it by first dropping paratroopers on top of the bunker (getting a little hurt by the AA) -- you want to drop them before the door so they don't have to battle anyone, and they don't keep on walking to the front (I usually drop 2 waves just to be safe). At the same time, I send some engineers to deal with the AA. All this has to be done fairly quickly, 'cause the computer has a column that is pretty near to your side. Its great when you have the bunker and the 2 AA guns -- the enemy can't but be hurt when he flies by.... Young Sul MIT, Project Athena
benser@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Earl Benser) (01/30/91)
Two missiles into a AA gun will knock it out. Either destroy the bunker and
then the AA guns or fly by the guns and attack from the rear (a little
risky since they usually shoot the *$%&*# out of you). Bombing the guns us
what the computer choppers do but I usually get shot up bad trying to do
this.
Anyone used Armor Alley over the modem. We're having trouble. Three Sixty
indicates that this function is not supported. What gives???
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*******************************************************************************clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) (01/30/91)
In article <1991Jan29.161711.26087@csn.org> ullevig@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Ullevig Zachary A) writes: |In article <3143@ux.acs.umn.edu> clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) writes: |>On level five, there is a large bunker very close to the player's lines, |>behind which are two AA guns. I can't get past these guns. Any ideas? | |I fly past the bunker dodging the AA guns. I then approach them from behind |at low level and destroy them with my missiles. It takes 2 missiles to destroy |one, so it takes two trips. You also have to be careful that the computer |doesn't get a chance to repair them while your convoy approaches. OK, this is really wierd. This is the second suggestion I've recieved to do this. As this is my usual anti-AA tactic [fly in low and loose 2 missiles] it was of course the first thing I tried. If I fire two missiles from the left, they of course impact on the bunker itself. If I fly over them, set down on the right of the guns, and fire, the missiles will never take out either gun. They will: 1. Fail to acquire the guns and hit the bunker. or 2. each acquire a separate gun, which destroys neither. No matter how fast I rearm and return, they are repaired when I get back. I've discovered a working tactic, however. If you load up with paratroopers and drop them right over the guns, they will stand a good chance of destroying the guns [or at least one of them]. While I'm jabbering about this game, I'm peeved that the computer can totally capture my funds, but I can't do the same to its funds. chaz -- Someone please release me from this trance. clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu AOL:Crowbone
ullevig@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Ullevig Zachary A) (01/30/91)
In article <1991Jan29.190747.4860@src.honeywell.com> benser@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Earl Benser) writes: > >Two missiles into a AA gun will knock it out. Either destroy the bunker and >then the AA guns or fly by the guns and attack from the rear (a little >risky since they usually shoot the *$%&*# out of you). Not if you do it right. Fly in low from behind. I mean very low. You should only be a pixel or two above the ground. Make you approach slow until you get the hang of it. Once the AA guns are just barely on the screen, you will be able to shoot them and they won't shoot back. It is easy to get too close if you aren't careful. You might also try the other methods suggested in other posts. I have been able to use them, but for some reason I prefer this one. -Zach
ullevig@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Ullevig Zachary A) (01/30/91)
>OK, this is really wierd. This is the second suggestion I've recieved to do >this. As this is my usual anti-AA tactic [fly in low and loose 2 missiles] it >was of course the first thing I tried. If I fire two missiles from the left, >they of course impact on the bunker itself. If I fly over them, set down on >the right of the guns, and fire, the missiles will never take out either gun. >They will: > 1. Fail to acquire the guns and hit the bunker. >or > 2. each acquire a separate gun, which destroys neither. No matter > how fast I rearm and return, they are repaired when I get back. > I don't know what you are doing wrong. I have had had both of your results happen, but most of the time both missiles hit the same gun and destroy it. >I've discovered a working tactic, however. If you load up with paratroopers >and drop them right over the guns, they will stand a good chance of destroying >the guns [or at least one of them]. > > This works too. For those who haven't tried it yet: be carefull how you fly while you drop the paratroopers. It is possible to cause the AA guns to kill the paratroopers while they are trying to hit your helecopter. > ______________________________________________________________________________ | Zach Ullevig | "I like maxims that don't | | University of Colorado | encourage behavior modification." | | ullevig@tramp.colorado.edu | --Calvin | |____________________________________________________________________________|
) (01/30/91)
bdugan@teri.bio.uci.edu (Bill Dugan) writes: >In article <3143@ux.acs.umn.edu> clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) writes: >>I'm surprised that there's been so little talk about Armor Alley of late...I'm >>really impressed with it. >Does anybody remember the great game on the old Apple II, RESCUE RAIDERS? >I saw Armor Alley the other day and it looks like a copy. In fact, it >looks like a ripoff. Same layout of the game, same pieces that move >across the field, everything with the same function. Who makes Armor >Alley? Is it really slower than Rescue Raiders, or were my eyes deceiving me? >bill I played Rescue Raiders up the butt one summer. I remember it well. I believe Armor Alley is a mac port of the game, I'm not sure that it is the same company, but after 5+ years, what computer company is still the same? In any case, I don't believe that anyone would plagiarize a game so baldly as to invite a massive suit. Now on to the game itself: Comparing Armor Alley and Rescue Raiders, there is one major difference in terms of game play. The computer is far far smarter in Armor Alley. It even DODGES missiles! Amazing! And it takes out your convoys intelligently. But I felt Rescue Raiders was much more entertaining--though you can shove AA up to max speed and really whiz, RR was fast enough. I don't like the AA lesser bunkers, as it can be really hard to tell whose they are (in RR they change color). I mean, c'mon, if you've got an army, what do they do mostly? PAINT. :) And of course, I dislike the imprecision of the mouse control...I suppose if I practice enough I'll be able to be just as good, but I'll never be able to dodge 10 missiles at once like I used to with my Hayes III joystick. I don't like shooting at something and not noticing (in AA) that I'm creeping up slowly on it. To sum up: despite the frills such as sound and improved color of Armor Alley, I still prefer Rescue Raiders any day. You get REAL napalm on level 6 of RR :) (Actually, I haven't seen if you get genuine 4-inch napalm tracks on AA yet, haven't gotten up that high.) But that's not to say I don't enjoy Armor Alley. It's still Rescue Raiders after all. just another game nerd, julius julius@tybalt.caltech.edu
jhex_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeff "Ashton" Hexter) (01/31/91)
I bought Armor Alley a few weeks ago (my copy is version 1.0.1 - anybody got a later version... I've still got a really irritating bug - my preferences file gets clobbered every time I save, and though I hate having to disable every init (and multifinder) this game is worth it!) I was wondering - everyone who's played Rescue Raiders (it's by Sir Tech, the people who made and still make Wizardry) may know about the hidden features brought on by typing "ZIPPY" (I think): <Return> made you bullet proof, <J> brought you back to the left side of the main radar screen, <K> brought you to the middle, and <L> brought you to the right. Also, <-> (any number from 1 through 9) put you on that level of the game. Does anyone know any features like this for Armor Alley???? Jeff -- What is Cognitive Science? A better | Mcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmc question is what ISN'T Cognitive Science! | mcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmc... jhex_ltd@cc.rochester.edu | Jeff Hexter University of Rochester Apple Student Representative AOL: JeffHex
ullevig@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Ullevig Zachary A) (02/05/91)
In article <26665@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> dth@shark.cis.ufl.edu (David Hightower) writes: >If is is the same, are the missions identical? for RR, the whole >scenario takes place in Europe (mostly France), and you have >to "liberate" such places as Cherbourg. The game is almost exactly the same, but you don't have the missions like in RR. The battles are, for the most part, the same as the RR battles, but you don't have the screen saying where you are and what your mission is. ______________________________________________________________________________ | Zach Ullevig | "I like maxims that don't | | University of Colorado | encourage behavior modification." | | ullevig@tramp.colorado.edu | --Calvin | |____________________________________________________________________________|