[comp.sys.mac.games] Fools Errand help...

lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) (05/02/90)

In article <5889@ucrmath.UCR.EDU> gumby@ucrmath.ucr.edu (john donahue) writes:
: 
: Well, I finally solved all the puzzles in the game. Then came the fun of
: organizing all the parts of the "Sun Map" and putting them in their
: proper place so that the map was readable. I knew there'd be another
: "phase" to this game afterwards since "The Book of Thoth" was one part
: of a puzzle it wouldn't even let me try to solve, but this is
: ridiculous!
: 
If you had built the map as you went, you would have been able
to deduce much more easily which piece corresponds to which
place.

You don't make it clear whether you successfully completed the
map.

: Does anyone have a "solution file" or some general advice or hints on
: how to locate the 14 treasures. I looked at all of the places on the maps
: where "clues" are located and I don't even know where to begin! Help me!

spoiler

Once you have the map completely constructed, various sections
of it will be mouse sensitive.  If you click on such a spot,
you will get a puzzle.  All the clues for the puzzles are in
bold face in the journal, which you should definitely print
out.  (Anybody know how to get laser printer output?)

If you click on the piece of the map that looks like a scroll
(it has no path thru it) you will get the book of Thoth where
you can record your 14 answers.

If you still are stuck, write for more expliciti help.

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jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) (07/29/90)

Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.

You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:

"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.

Anyone?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Hailing Frequencies Closed.
"Captain" D. Joseph Creighton 
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dmc@planet.bt.co.uk (Darin Crawford) (07/30/90)

jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:

>Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
>puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
>that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.

>You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
>watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:

>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.

>Anyone?

>Anyone?

>Anyone?

>Hailing Frequencies Closed.
>"Captain" D. Joseph Creighton 
>*******************************************************************************

The cryptic way of helping you is to say "FIRSTS", but I could also
tell you the full answer, stop reading now if you don't want to see it.



The Answer is

	Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore
	^      ^     ^   ^       ^     ^   ^     ^    ^  ^
	L      E     A   P       F     O   R     J    O  Y

Now for the next part. Good Luck

d88-cbr@dront.nada.kth.se (Christian Beijner) (07/30/90)

In article <1990Jul29.134526.28289@ccu.umanitoba.ca> jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:
>Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
>puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
>that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.
>
>You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
>watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:
>
>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.
>
>Anyone?
>
>Anyone?
>
>Anyone?
>
>Hailing Frequencies Closed.
>"Captain" D. Joseph Creighton 
>*******************************************************************************

Who me?

The clue is what the fool says. This is an easy one


Ladies Enjoy And Perhaps Favor Odd Rowdy Jigs Of Yore

Spoiler follows:


Leap for joy.

/Chris

kenney@hsi.UUCP (Brian Kenney) (07/30/90)

In article <1990Jul29.134526.28289@ccu.umanitoba.ca> jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:
 >Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
 >puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
 >that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.
 
 Spoilers follow
 
 >You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
 >watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:
  
 >"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.
   -      -     -   -       -     -   -     -    -  -
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 >Hailing Frequencies Closed.
 >"Captain" D. Joseph Creighton 

-bri
 
 
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whooper@oakhill.UUCP (William Hooper) (07/30/90)

In article <1990Jul29.134526.28289@ccu.umanitoba.ca> jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:
>Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
>puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
>that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.
>
>You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
>watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:
>
>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.
>
>Anyone?
>
>Anyone?
>
>Anyone?
>
>Hailing Frequencies Closed.
>"Captain" D. Joseph Creighton 
>*******************************************************************************

Well, "captain," the answer to this annoying puzzle (I thought it was
annoying too) is staring you right in the face.  It is hidden in the 
words on the screen.  If you want the answer spelled out, just hit
return.





The puzzle is solved by taking the first letter of each word -->

Ladies Enjoy And Perhaps Favor Odd Rowdy Jigs Of Yore -->

LEAP FOR JOY!!

			Bill Hooper
			Motorola, Inc.

so@grad11.cs.duke.edu (Steve Owen) (07/30/90)

Spoiler may follow.


In article <1990Jul29.134526.28289@ccu.umanitoba.ca> jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:
>Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
>puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
>that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.
>
>You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
>watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:
>
>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.
>

Well . . . I've never even seen Fools Errand, so I have no idea how
the game goes.  But I noticed that if you take the first letter from
each word in "Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!",
you get "Leap for joy".  Hope this helps.

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                              Steve Owen
ARPA:	so@cs.duke.edu			Department of Computer Science
CSNET:	so@duke				Duke University
UUCP:	{mcnc,decvax}!duke!so		Durham, NC 27706 USA
"It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety."
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chris@momenta (Chris Christensen) (07/30/90)

jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:

>Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
>puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
>that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.

>You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
>watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:

>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.


DANGER!! SPOILER FOLLOWS
DANGER!! SPOILER FOLLOWS
DANGER!! SPOILER FOLLOWS
DANGER!! SPOILER FOLLOWS




Try:

Ladies Enjoy And Perhaps Favor Odd Rowdy Jigs Of Yore

LEAP FOR JOY

jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) (07/31/90)

In article <3609@saturn.oakhill.UUCP> whooper@saturn.UUCP (William Hooper) writes:
>In article <1990Jul29.134526.28289@ccu.umanitoba.ca> jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:
>>Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
>>puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
>>that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.
>>
>>You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
>>watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:
>>
>>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.
>>
>>Anyone?

To Humans And Nice Kindred Spirits... to everyone.

Hailing Frequencies Closed.
"Captain" D. Joseph Creighton 
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forbes@sp11.csrd.uiuc.edu (Michael Scott Forbes) (07/31/90)

jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:

>Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
>puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
>that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.
>
>You know which one:  a four-three-three phrase combination where the fool is
>watching girls dance with wine in their hands, and below is the sentence:
>
>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.

7,205 netters from all across the nation respond:
>[7,205 variations on "Leap for joy!" deleted]

I think this thread shows that what's an easy puzzle for some Fool's Errand
players turns out to be a hard one for others.  Me, I spent hours/days/weeks
chasing a question mark across the page at "Three Ships".  What other puzzles
from Fool's Errand (or other games, for that matter) have people found to be
the hardest?

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sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (07/31/90)

Well, I have solved the game. The hardest puzzles were:
Justice
Three Ships
Death (I cheated on this one, actually. There is a really sweet way to get
through it using the Mac interface to its fullest.)
The Humbug
This is an amazingly cool game, by the way.

Anyone who needs any help, write me at
sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

"Who dares to interrupt my errand?"

aruns@microsoft.UUCP (Arun SAGAR) (07/31/90)

Spoiler

In article <1990Jul29.134526.28289@ccu.umanitoba.ca> jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:
>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.
  ^      ^     ^   ^       ^     ^   ^     ^    ^  ^
Leap for joy.
Bad language is clue.

ted@cs.utexas.edu (Ted Woodward) (08/01/90)

I'm sure nobody has answered this, so the answer is:

leap for joy.

Gee, to bad nobody else answered this...
:-)

(sheesh!  seems people would read on before answering a few thousand times...)


-- 
Ted Woodward (ted@cs.utexas.edu)

Greetings, Royal Ugly Dudes!

llama@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Joe Francis) (08/01/90)

In article <851@nada.cs.utexas.edu> ted@cs.utexas.edu (Ted Woodward) writes:

>(sheesh!  seems people would read on before answering a few thousand times...)

or you can do what I did...  use email.  Spoiler requests should probably
be answered via email, since there is not usually a wide audience who
want to know the solution to problem X in game Y.  The requester may get
lots of mail, but this is better than the net getting it, and at least 
the requester gets something in exchange for the mail hastle - namely,
the spoiler.

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jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) (08/01/90)

In article <1990Jul30.204848.22522@csrd.uiuc.edu> forbes@sp11.csrd.uiuc.edu (Michael Scott Forbes) writes:
>jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes:
>
>>Alright.  Enough is enough.  I've run out of *rational* answers for the
>>puzzle "The Couple."  It's my last one - I even did the map and know where
>>that *irritating* piece will fall once I solve it.
>>
>>"Ladies enjoy and perhaps favor odd rowdy jigs of yore!" thought the fool.
>
>7,205 netters from all across the nation respond:
>[7,205 variations on "Leap for joy!" deleted]
>
>I think this thread shows that what's an easy puzzle for some Fool's Errand
>players turns out to be a hard one for others.  Me, I spent hours/days/weeks
>chasing a question mark across the page at "Three Ships".  What other puzzles
>from Fool's Errand (or other games, for that matter) have people found to be
>the hardest?
>
Well, since you've asked...

I found the "Three Ships" also frustrating as hell.  Took almost a whole
day to figure that one out.  When I got to "The Couple," I met my match,
I'm afraid.  I had all puzzles before and after figured out (minus the two
you must do *after* solving "The Couple"), plus the map constructed, all in
attempts to clear my brain and come at the puzzle from a new angle.

No such luck.

The rest were easy as pie (well, some weren't *that* easy), and I have
managed to work my way to trying to solve the Sun's Map in less than a
week.

Six treasures down...  :)

Hailing Frequencies Closed.
"Captain" D. Joseph Creighton 
*******************************************************************************

taylor@limbo.Intuitive.Com (Dave Taylor) (08/02/90)

Just some good news; Miles Computing is working on a sequel to
Fool's Errand and hope to get it out the door by either later
this year or early next year!!  In addition, another entry to the
puzzle gallery series is on the way too, so stay tuned.

						-- Dave Taylor
Intuitive Systems
Mountain View, California

taylor@limbo.intuitive.com    or   {uunet!}{decwrl,apple}!limbo!taylor

ritter@fornax.UUCP (Dave Ritter) (03/05/91)

My wife and I have recently started to play Fools Errand and while we
find it fun there are four (for the moment) puzzels which have us
completely stumped. Perhaps some other players could forward hints or
solutions. The four tricky puzzels are:

	1. Three Ships: The button on this puzzel moves every time to try`
		to click on it. 

	2. High Priestess: We've done the flashing/moving numbers from 100 to
		1 and now an eye appears. What is the point?

	3. The Chapel: This puzzel looks easy since you only have to find
		three letters, however we cannot for the life of us understand
		any of the clues.

	4. The Thief: Similar to the chapel, can't understand the clues.

Any help with these problems or hints that may make yet-to-be-encountered 
problems a little easier are greatly appreciated.

	Thanks

David Ritter
Simon Fraser University
Vancouver, BC

news@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU (Six o'clock News) (03/08/91)

>		to click on it. 
From: gousha@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Charles Gousha)
Path: cory.Berkeley.EDU!gousha

As mentioned in the text elsewhere, don't try to catch the button - make
it come to you.

>	2. High Priestess: We've done the flashing/moving numbers from 100 to
>		1 and now an eye appears. What is the point?

Don't worry about this one too much.  You need to solve some of the other
puzzles before you can finish this one.

>	3. The Chapel: This puzzle looks easy since you only have to find
>		three letters, however we cannot for the life of us understand
>		any of the clues.

>	4. The Thief: Similar to the chapel, can't understand the clues.

My mind is blanking on these.  Guess it's time to break fool's errand out 
again!

A general hint - pay attention to the text in the story.  As the puzzle
progresses, it becomes more and more important.  The most important bits
are in bold, and the magician (I think - the one with 4 pages of text)
has some VERY valuable words.

Enjoy!  And remember: it only gets harder.

>David Ritter



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