[net.railroad] uses of Amtrak

goutal@dec-parrot.UUCP (01/20/86)

(Isn't Amtrak a city in Michigan?)

I've been on Amtrak exactly once, back around '73 or so -- early on.
I went from Boston to DC overnight in a coach, and back the same way,
to go to a friend's wedding.  It was in December.
There was *no heat* till we got to the electrified section around Mystic.
I was pretty put out, but still I enjoyed the overall experience;
it's definitely seeing America at eye-level!

More recently, my wife takes the kids to see her sister and her kids.
We live in southern Moose Hampster (er, New Hampshire!) just about due
north of Boston.  The sister lives just outside Pittsfield, on the 
extreme western border of Massachusetts with New York state.
We only have one car.  <--<<  (key point!)
I need the car for work, so when they want to go, 
I drive them down to Framingham,
and they take the Amtrak train from there out to Pittsfield.
In the end, it is somewhat more expensive than driving,
but a heck of a lot more pleasant for them,
and, of course, I get to continue to get to work every day.

The latter is the main advantage for us of using Amtrak!
The freedom to walk around, eat, meet people, share babysitting,
visit the online head -- those are relative luxuries!
That is why we are distressed at the idea of Amtrak going away.
We are *not* the well-pensioned retirees going on snazzy vacations!

(By the way, someone recently mentioned that this line only goes once
per day at an inconvenient time.  That's true going east, as it departs
Pittsfield around 10:00 a.m. and gets to Framinham around 2:00 p.m.,
but going the other way isn't bad -- 5:00-9:00 or something.)

-- Kenn	Goutal		...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-parrot!goutal

price@noscvax.UUCP (James N. Price) (01/27/86)

Fellow railfans--I think that some group or company that knows what
they're doing and has some reasonable amount of money should be
preparing to take over at least some of the Amtrak operation.  The
handwriting seems to be on the wall that, for better or worse, the
government is hellbent on getting out of "training."  I won't go
into the various defenses of why the govt. should BE in training at
this time.

What I'd like to know is:  who's thinking about the real future?  It
seems clear that the airplane space in this country is nearing 
saturation, but there's no travel alternative at the moment between
100 MPH trains and 500 MPH aircraft.  What is needed is a high-speed
ground transportation system (and I'm talking about at least 300 MPH)
that can be integrated in with a commercial aircraft system.  I'd like
to see a jet-powered or float-on-air sled that can carry 100 people
for example.  I have a lot of other thoughts about what this system
would look like, but right now I just want to know if anyone is
seriously working on a concept like I've described.

I spoke last week to a gentleman at the Federal Railroad Association 
and he told me that the fed. govt has zeroed R&D funding into high
speed rail, for several years running.  The most optimistic govt/
private sector coalition that he was aware of is the Florida High
Speed Rail group that's looking into 150 MPH transportation between
Miami, Orlando and Tampa (I believe).  Any other such projects under
development?

My address is PRICE@NOSC.ARPA.  Would appreciate some thoughts on the 
above.  It seems clear to me that over the short haul, some alternative
plans for running an Amtrak equivalent need to be made.  For the long
haul, we need some kind of ground transportation system that will allow
transit from LA to New York in, say, 10 hours.

Cheers--Jim Price

P.S.  The thoughts expressed above are mine and mine alone.