drz@po.CWRU.Edu (David R. Zinkin) (09/19/90)
I have been *trying* to use the following network software together with my Macintosh SE/30 for the past three weeks: Su-Mac/IP v4.0 for MacTCP, MacTCP v1.0.1, AppleShare v2.0.2, and EtherTalk v1.2. I cannot get the programs to work for more than a couple of days before one or more of the following happens: 1. My Chooser is trashed. 2. My Control Panel is trashed. 3. Various CDEVs and RDEVs are trashed. 4. My System file grows from 557 K to 12,005 K. In all cases, the only way to seemingly fix the problem is to reinstall the System Software (I'm using System 6.0.5/Finder 6.1.5). But if I reinstall the network software and then try to use it for a couple of days, there's another crash. I've scanned my hard drive with Disinfectant 2.1 to make sure there are no viruses, and I've used several disk diagnostic programs to check the validity of the disk itself. The presence or absence of MultiFinder (6.0.5 and/or 6.1b9) doesn't make a difference. I've tried various INIT configurations as well as a configuration with *no* INITs other than those mentioned above, since they *have* to run for network access to function. The campus network office (Information Network Services) refuses to help with the problem, stating only things such as "You must have done something wrong" and "That can't really be happening". Unfortunately, they won't even give me the model number of the Ethernet board they installed in my SE/30 -- I *know* it's made by Cabletron and I *think* it's the E5000, but I'm not positive. (Maybe they have something to hide?) Can *anyone* out there help? Does anyone have experience with Su-Mac/IP 4.0 and/or the Cabletron board? (If not, can you help anyway?) I've had to replace my System file *twelve* times in the past three weeks because of these crashes. Please, PLEASE, send me E-mail if you can help me! Thanks, -- David Zinkin -- David Zinkin -- Case Western Reserve University (Student) and Rochester General Hospital Radiology Dept. (Consultant) INTERNET: drz@po.cwru.edu BITNET: drz%po.cwru.edu@cunyvm
Garance_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu (Garance Drosehn) (09/20/90)
In article <1990Sep19.033526.9227@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> drz@po.CWRU.Edu (David R. Zinkin) writes: > I have been *trying* to use the following network software > together with my Macintosh SE/30 for the past three weeks: > > Su-Mac/IP v4.0 for MacTCP, MacTCP v1.0.1, AppleShare v2.0.2, > and EtherTalk v1.2. > > I cannot get the programs to work for more than a couple of days > before one or more of the following happens: > > 1. My Chooser is trashed. > 2. My Control Panel is trashed. > 3. Various CDEVs and RDEVs are trashed. > 4. My System file grows from 557 K to 12,005 K. > > In all cases, the only way to seemingly fix the problem is to > reinstall the System Software (I'm using System 6.0.5/Finder 6.1.5). > But if I reinstall the network software and then try to use it for > a couple of days, there's another crash. I've scanned my hard drive > with Disinfectant 2.1 to make sure there are no viruses, and I've > used several disk diagnostic programs to check the validity of the > disk itself. The presence or absence of MultiFinder (6.0.5 and/or > 6.1b9) doesn't make a difference. I've tried various INIT > configurations as well as a configuration with *no* INITs other > than those mentioned above, since they *have* to run for network > access to function. Hmm, interesting. I've been having some problems on my Mac IIci lately, and after reading your message I checked my System file and found that it's now 5 megabytes. Given that most of my DAs and fonts are in Suitcase files, this is rather suspicious. Not that that's much help to you, of course. Assuming the same thing is afflicting both of our systems (which is not likely, but possible), about the only thing I have in common with your system is MacTcp version 1.0.1. I just recently upgraded to that from the 1.0 version, and wasn't having any troubles before the upgrade. On the other hand, of course, there are a lot of things that I've changed on my system since then, so who knows what is causing my System file to grow. So, this is pure speculation, but has anyone out there noticed problems with version 1.0.1 of MacTCP? Garance_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY. USA
Garance_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu (Garance Drosehn) (09/20/90)
In article <=9G%'7$@rpi.edu> Garance_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu (Garance Drosehn) writes: > In article <1990Sep19.033526.9227@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> > drz@po.CWRU.Edu (David R. Zinkin) writes: > > I have been *trying* to use the following network software > > together with my Macintosh SE/30 for the past three weeks: > > > > Su-Mac/IP v4.0 for MacTCP, MacTCP v1.0.1, AppleShare v2.0.2, > > and EtherTalk v1.2. > > > > I cannot get the programs to work for more than a couple of days > > before one or more of the following happens: > > > > 1. My Chooser is trashed. > > 2. My Control Panel is trashed. > > 3. Various CDEVs and RDEVs are trashed. > > 4. My System file grows from 557 K to 12,005 K. > > > > In all cases, the only way to seemingly fix the problem is to > > reinstall the System Software (I'm using System 6.0.5/Finder 6.1.5). > > But if I reinstall the network software and then try to use it for > > a couple of days, there's another crash. I've scanned my hard drive > > with Disinfectant 2.1 to make sure there are no viruses, and I've > > used several disk diagnostic programs to check the validity of the > > disk itself. The presence or absence of MultiFinder (6.0.5 and/or > > 6.1b9) doesn't make a difference. I've tried various INIT > > configurations as well as a configuration with *no* INITs other > > than those mentioned above, since they *have* to run for network > > access to function. > > Hmm, interesting. I've been having some problems on my Mac IIci lately, > and after reading your message I checked my System file and found that > it's now 5 megabytes. Given that most of my DAs and fonts are in Suitcase > files, this is rather suspicious. > > Not that that's much help to you, of course. Assuming the same thing is > afflicting both of our systems (which is not likely, but possible), about > the only thing I have in common with your system is MacTcp version 1.0.1. > I just recently upgraded to that from the 1.0 version, and wasn't having > any troubles before the upgrade. On the other hand, of course, there are > a lot of things that I've changed on my system since then, so who knows > what is causing my System file to grow. > > So, this is pure speculation, but has anyone out there noticed problems > with version 1.0.1 of MacTCP? Well, as a follow up to my own message, I'd also recommend that you run ResEdit on your Huge System File. That would give you some clues as to who the culprit might be. In my case the size of the system file has nothing to do with MacTCP, but it does have a few megabytes worth of "DwPF: resources. These, if you're curious, are DeskWorks Preferences. One of the other things that I recently installed is the first version of the "Zedcor Desk" DAs, and apparently one of them is getting quite confused and storing massive amounts of who-knows-what in my system file. So, use ResEdit to look for clues on what is making that your own huge system file so huge. Garance_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY. USA
drz@po.CWRU.Edu (David R. Zinkin) (09/20/90)
I *wanted* to run ResEdit on the System file, but when I found that I couldn't even do a "Get Info" on the 12 meg System file -- the Finder bombed when I tried -- I decided to play it safe and trash the file. I suspect that the file may *not* have actually "grown" but that the file information may have been corrupted. I'm still not certain, though. (And ResEdit is the *last* thing I want to run on an unstable System! But I'll try it again the next time it happens.) Thanks for the info, -- Dave Zinkin -- David Zinkin -- Case Western Reserve University (Student) and Rochester General Hospital Radiology Dept. (Consultant) INTERNET: drz@po.cwru.edu BITNET: drz%po.cwru.edu@cunyvm