[comp.sys.mac.system] Wanted: Software to Hide Windows

c60a-cz@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Donald Burr) (12/06/90)

One of the features of System 7.0 is its ability to "hide" the windows
of an application that isn't in the foreground, on MultiFinder.  Example:
If you're in Microsoft Word, and you have a document window that fills up
the whole screen, and you switch over to Finder to do some disk work,
the Word window disappears, and leaves you with a completely empty desk-
top, so no windows get in the way of selecting disks, files, etc.
But when you switch into Word again, it reappears, with all stuff in
it intact.

Unfortunately, System 7.0 isn't available yet.

Is there an INIT or some other piece of software that will bring this
feature, or a similar such feature, to us users of 6.0.x?

If so, where can it be downloaded, FTP'd, etc. from?

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on one), or to one of the following Email addresses:

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Thanks!
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boris@world.std.com (Boris Levitin) (12/07/90)

c60a-cz@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Donald Burr) writes:


>One of the features of System 7.0 is its ability to "hide" the windows
>of an application that isn't in the foreground, on MultiFinder.  Example:
>If you're in Microsoft Word, and you have a document window that fills up
>the whole screen, and you switch over to Finder to do some disk work,
>the Word window disappears, and leaves you with a completely empty desk-
>top, so no windows get in the way of selecting disks, files, etc.
>But when you switch into Word again, it reappears, with all stuff in
>it intact.

>Unfortunately, System 7.0 isn't available yet.

>Is there an INIT or some other piece of software that will bring this
>feature, or a similar such feature, to us users of 6.0.x?

MultiFinder 6.1b9, wherever MacOS software is to be found.

owen@raven.phys.washington.edu (Russell Owen) (12/07/90)

There is a beta multifinder which will more-or-less do the job. It seems 
reliable (at least with system 6.0.5; I haven't tried 6.0.7).

Please answer a question for me: is it possible to put system 7 in a mode 
where it automatically hides all the windows for another application? With 
the silly version 6 beta MF you have to select "set aside others" every 
time you want it. Worse, you have to hold option to get that; the default 
is a totally useless "set aside self". Wish I knew how to fix that with 
ResEdit.

For that matter, I'd love to be able to bring the finder disk icons 
forward with the windows. Then no need for set aside, for me. Good old 
Apple and their compulsion about the silly "desktop" metaphore. Give me 
windows and you can have the "desktop".

Russell Owen
owen@raven.phys.washington.edu
Astronomy Dept. FM-20
University of Washington
Seattle, WA  98195

mystone@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Dean Yu) (12/07/90)

In article <12469@milton.u.washington.edu> owen@raven.phys.washington.edu (Russell Owen) writes:
>Please answer a question for me: is it possible to put system 7 in a mode 
>where it automatically hides all the windows for another application? With 
>the silly version 6 beta MF you have to select "set aside others" every 
>time you want it. Worse, you have to hold option to get that; the default 
>is a totally useless "set aside self". Wish I knew how to fix that with 
>ResEdit.

  In System 7, there are separate "Hide application" and "Hide Others" items
under the application menu.

>For that matter, I'd love to be able to bring the finder disk icons 
>forward with the windows. Then no need for set aside, for me. Good old 
>Apple and their compulsion about the silly "desktop" metaphore. Give me 
>windows and you can have the "desktop".

  (Plug forthcoming...)  I wrote an INIT for System 7 which puts aliases of
mounted volumes in a folder.  If you keep the window for this folder open,
you'll effectively have your volume icons in a window.  Too bad there aliases
don't work under System 6...

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aoki@husc9.harvard.edu (Edwin Aoki) (12/09/90)

The version of multifinder currently is 6.1b9.

As for System 7.0, the menu that allows you to move applications has separate
items for set aside self and set aside others.  I use the set aside self 
option quite a bit, so I'm not sure that having Set aside all others as a
default is necessary, but one hint for those using 6.1b9.  If you have windows
from more than one app on your desktop, command-option clicking in a window
from another application (in another "layer" in technical terms) will "set
aside" the current app (the one in the foreground) before switching to the
app you just switched to - a handy shortcut.

-Edwin Aoki
(aoki@husc9.harvard.edu)

jwagner@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Joseph Wagner) (12/10/90)

I've seen a lot of talk about multifinder 6.1b9. Where can I get it?
I didn't see it at apple.com

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dwal@ellis.uchicago.edu (David Walton) (12/10/90)

In article <4988@husc6.harvard.edu> aoki@husc9.UUCP (Edwin Aoki) writes:
>
>As for System 7.0, the menu that allows you to move applications has separate
>items for set aside self and set aside others.  I use the set aside self 
>option quite a bit, so I'm not sure that having Set aside all others as a
>default is necessary, but one hint for those using 6.1b9. 

Certainly not necessary as a default: that makes cutting and pasting
between applications too cumbersome.  Having the option, however, is
definitely useful.  If you're doing a lot of cutting and pasting
between a set of applications and then decide you want to work only in
one for a while, you don't have to go through the list of all open
applications to hide the unwanted open windows; a single option-click
from the current application does it for you.

>If you have windows
>from more than one app on your desktop, command-option clicking in a window
>from another application (in another "layer" in technical terms) will "set
>aside" the current app (the one in the foreground) before switching to the
>app you just switched to - a handy shortcut.

Actually, you don't need the command key.  Option-click in the window of
another application will do it.  Just picking nits :-).

>-Edwin Aoki


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