[comp.sys.mac.system] Weird Mac II problem

gabe@sol.ctr.columbia.edu (Gabe Wiener) (01/01/91)

Hey folks.  A friend of mine called me over to look at his mac which he claimed
was acting a little weird.  When I got there, I encountered some of the most
peculiar system glitches I've ever seen.  Maybe someone can help me identify 
them.

The configuration is a Mac II with a Dataframe 60 meg external drive.

When I started it up, it seemed to start up just fine, until I realized that
NONE OF THE INITS had loaded.  Suitcase II hadn't come up, so very few fonts
or DA's where present, Moire, ATM, etc...all of them didn't load (the icons
didn't come up at startup).  When I checked the system folder, it was virtually
empty!  Only 7 or 8 files appeared, and they were only the ones that began
with the letter A.  The system didn't appear, the finder didn't appear.  If I
didn't know any better, I'd have wondered how this thing managed to boot at
all!

Anyway, I restarted three or four times and the same thing happened.  No INIT
icons came up, and the machine went straight into the finder.  As I booted it
again and again, I noticed that the dataframe was making a slightly abnormal
sound for a moment or two when the inits were "supposed" to be loading.  
Instead of the usual disk-seek sound, it let out a little "chirp" at two
different points.  Maybe a bad sector on the disk?

Anyway, the fourth time I did it, three or four inits loaded and then I got
a bomb.  The fifth time, all the inits loaded and all was well.

Something is REALLY intermittent here.  He said he's been hearing those weird
chirps from the drive every so often, but there's never been any ill effect
until now.   He ran sector collector a few weeks back and it turned up no bad
sectors.  We didn't have time to run it today.  That may be the next thing to
try.

If anyone has experienced anything remotely like this and can lend a little
advice, we'd both be quite grateful.

Please EMAIL ALL REPLIES as I'm going out of town for several weeks and will
miss the replies if they're posted.

Thanks much in advance.




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Greg@AppleLink.apple.com (Greg Marriott) (01/07/91)

Just a guess, totally out of the blue, but maybe you should have your 
friend make sure the hard disk is properly terminated.

Greg Marriott
Blue Meanie
Apple Computer, Inc.