patfieldk@jordache.UUCP (Kevin M. Patfield) (01/05/91)
Last night I installed 4MB of Ram for a friend and removed the dead 20MB Miniscribe from his SE which he has replaced with a 40MB external drive. As all seemed to be well, I upgraded his system to 6.0.5 and installed a few of the goodies he was missing such as finder sounds, cursor animator, map and a few DA's (basically a subset of the inits, cdevs and DA's on my own SE). We also installed an application called DrumFile 1.1 from "Blank Software" (no, really, that's what it said) using its own supplied installer. This is a copy protected application whose installer presumably copies some invisible file to the hard disk, without which the program won't run. The application seemed to work OK but it does have the problem that when running under multifinder it doesn't correctly redraw the desktop when one of its windows is closed (it is about 5 years old). Its installer had a version 3 system and finder and would only run when used as the startup disk. At some point in the proceedings finder sounds stopped working. It may be when we installed or tested DrumFile, it may have been at some other time. All I can remember is that finder sounds worked fine at first then just refused to work despite turning it off and on in the control panel and rebooting. After an hour or so of messing about, during which we de-installed DrumFile and completely re-installed the 6.0.5/6.1.5 system using the installer on my locked apple system disks, I decided to try to reproduce the problem with a floppy based system. I copied the system file from my system tools disk and added finder sounds and finder sounds config from the system folder on my own SE. To my utter amazement I found that if I started by own SE from this disk, finder sounds worked but if I did the same thing on my friend's SE (with or without his external hard drive connected) it didn't work. The two configurations were identical except for the fact that mine was mounting the internal hard drive as a non-startup disk. About this time I began to think that maybe there was a problem with the Parameter RAM in his machine. I know that this is involved in sound generation at least as far as selecting the "beep" sound. I zapped the parameter RAM but it made no difference, my SE still played finder sounds and his didn't. By the way, his SE generated all the beep sounds correctly (yes, I did reconnect the speaker after adding the RAM). Somewhere is the murky past I can remember some problem with sounds during the migration to system 4 or 5. As I recall there was a problem getting back to a simple beep after trying the other sounds. Is this anything to do with my problem? I've checked carefully for viruses and found nothing. Am I justified in believing that this is not a problem with the newly installed RAM since this is checked at power up? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please email to the address below, not via the path above. -- Kevin Patfield, AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, AZ UUCP: {ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att}!gtephx!patfieldk Internet: gtephx!patfieldk@asuvax.eas.asu.edu voice: (602) 581-4812 fax: (602) 582-7624
Titus.Wong@f555.n161.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Titus Wong) (01/23/91)
Hello Kevin; I am having the same problem with a Mac // at home and the other is at work Mac //. I brought my working system home to my computer and it works. I tried coping the system and other parts to my hard drive and reboot. It still does not work with my hard drive. Did you find a fix. The problem started for me when I upgraded to system 6.07 from 6.05 -- Titus Wong - via FidoNet node 1:125/777 UUCP: ...!uunet!hoptoad!fidogate!161!555!Titus.Wong INTERNET: Titus.Wong@f555.n161.z1.FIDONET.ORG