v564huce@ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu (Allen Hsu) (03/06/91)
Morning all, Seems to be a whole lot of System 7.0 questions being tossed around. I'll throw in what I know and feel. I'm inclined to agree that Apple will charge for the upgrade. Hopefully, it'll only be $50.00, but I can see it being as high as $75-$100. :-( The bad news is, I think we'll need the manuals. Based on my experience with 7.0b1, it will significantly increase the difficulty level of dealing with system software. Not that this is bad, but it's jsust many new users will not be sureif a DA is a System Extension, or a Startup file. This new organisation for the system folder is great for veteran users who are tired of waiting for the Font/DA mover. Most software seems to be comaptible, even Word ran under b1. There will be things that do not work though. I can say now, QuickKeys won't work. I have not seen version 2.0 though. Is it worth it? That's a judgement call. For those who need more than 8 megs, yes by all means, get it. I have not experimented with more thna 4, but System 6 won't let you go past 8 without being a real problem. For those who now have say 16, you'll need the extensions. 7.0 will also be a boon to new users in a small way. The ballon help feature will give new users exposure to HD organization and help them along with simple language and useful tips. At the store, we get many students who bring in HDs with multiple systems, totally screwed up desktops, and many more that are so disorganized, you wonder how they found anything. Ballon help will give new users a handholding process that was previously lacking. Bad news, it'll casue a whole lot panick when things don't work or they don't work like they used to. Can't win'em all I guess. One last note, B1 is more stable than many regular System releases that I've seen, maybe there is hope after all :-). -cheers and chastise that IBM user in the next office- -Allen Hsu-
ech@cbnewsk.att.com (ned.horvath) (03/19/91)
From article <ALAND.91Mar11145014@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, by aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D Danziger): > The reason (I believe) QK and QK2 do not work is because they are > Inits that work as CDevs also. Many programs which are both Inits and > CDevs do not work with System 7.0b1. Hopefully either the > utilities or the system software will correct this before 7.0r1 ships. I was able to get QK running under 7.0b1 by putting it in the Extensions folder and putting an alias into the Control Panels (cdev) folder. I can't think of any reason this would be necessary -- Control Panels get run at boot time as well as Extensions (INITs) -- except the usual load- order problems we've always had with INITs and cdevs. There's an experimental (with expiration date in April, I think) version of QuicKeys2 on AppleLink that runs just fine under 7.0b1 and b4. The associated CE Toolbox allows me to run DiskTop and DT Launch as well (ah...). In most cases, the workaround for cdev/init problems is just to reclutter your System folder... =Ned Horvath= ehorvath@attmail.com