miyazaki@wolf.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Takeshi Miyazaki) (04/28/91)
In article <1991Apr27.003950.21853@midway.uchicago.edu> nmm2@quads.uchicago.edu (nathaniel marinus mccully) writes: >In article <8766@idunno.Princeton.EDU> miyazaki@taichung.NoSubdomain.NoDomain >(Takeshi Miyazaki) writes: >>$400 for System and HyperCard??? >> >Yes, that's right. The upgrade kit comes with >Installer disk >System Tools >Utilities I + II >Font disks 1-4 >HyperCard 2.0-J (lite version) -- two disks. >Plus the usual "Macintosh Reference", "Startup", "Getting Started w/HyperCard" >etc. manuals all translated into Japanese (localized versions of the >6.0.7 manuals that come with any new Macintosh.) Thank you :-) two more questions: 1) Someone says that APDA carries KanjiTalk for $75(?). Is it still on the list? Does it include manuals? 2) Is $400 a reasonable price for system software? (I know it's a secondary system software for most of the users. I also know in Japan we must pay about $500 if you have imported macs) Takeshi Miyazaki miyazaki@ee.princeton.edu
philip@pescadero.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick) (04/28/91)
In article <8804@idunno.Princeton.EDU> miyazaki@wolf.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Takeshi Miyazaki) writes: >In article <1991Apr27.003950.21853@midway.uchicago.edu> nmm2@quads.uchicago.edu >(nathaniel marinus mccully) writes: >>In article <8766@idunno.Princeton.EDU> miyazaki@taichung.NoSubdomain.NoDomain >(Takeshi Miyazaki) writes: > >>>$400 for System and HyperCard??? >>> > > >>Yes, that's right. The upgrade kit comes with > [...] >1) Someone says that APDA carries KanjiTalk for $75(?). Is it still on the > list? Does it include manuals? > >2) Is $400 a reasonable price for system software? (I know it's a secondary > system software for most of the users. I also know in Japan we must pay > about $500 if you have imported macs) > The price listed in the current APDAlog is $70. This does not appear to include Hypercard, and is for version 6.0.4 (revised for IIci and Portable). It includes release notes totalling 164 pages, but no manuals. Similar packages for US system software are $35 for 6.0.x, and $20 for obsolete versions. These are also meant for developers specifically, and include no manuals. You can order from APDA by calling 1-800-282-2732 (you don't need to be a member to order). Philip Machanick
nmm2@quads.uchicago.edu (nathaniel marinus mccully) (04/28/91)
In article <8804@idunno.Princeton.EDU> miyazaki@wolf.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Takeshi Miyazaki) writes: > >two more questions: > >1) Someone says that APDA carries KanjiTalk for $75(?). Is it still on the > list? Does it include manuals? > >2) Is $400 a reasonable price for system software? (I know it's a secondary > system software for most of the users. I also know in Japan we must pay > about $500 if you have imported macs) > Yes, APDA will still sell the KanjiTalk system 6.0.7-J for $75 to any APDA member. It is also on the Developer CD Vol. VI. The reason for this is to allow developers access to the software so that they will be better able to localize their products to other countries' operating systems. However, to get the manuals, they must buy the whole kit ($400). So, why the $400 price tag? If you buy the upgrade kit from one of the newly authorized Apple dealers, you get the manuals in Japanese and the installer information and smaller user manuals in English. You also get something you can get nowhere else in America: user support from a bi-lingual system engineer that is employed full-time at the dealer. We all know how important (and expensive) customer support is, especially for Japanese customers. In addition, when KanjiTalk 6.1-J comes out, you get it (and TrueType Kanji fonts) for free. And the same for 7.0-J (if you can wait ^_^; that long). In short, it's a very good deal if you consider the other solutions available to bi-lingual businesses and internationally-minded individuals. One final note: Apple says the price parity situation between the U.S. and Japan will be getting much better, and already prices for many Apple products in Japan have dropped more than 40% in the last few months (see the latest postings in fj.lang.postscript). -- !!\\ !! !!\\ //!! Dept. of EALC !! \\ !! !! \ / !! Univ. of Chicago !! \\ !! !! v !! c/o SHINNOSUKE !! \\!! AT !! !! cCULLY ===> nmm2@midway.uchicago.edu
ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House) (05/01/91)
In article <8804@idunno.Princeton.EDU> miyazaki@wolf.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Takeshi Miyazaki) writes: >In article <1991Apr27.003950.21853@midway.uchicago.edu> nmm2@quads.uchicago.edu >(nathaniel marinus mccully) writes: >>In article <8766@idunno.Princeton.EDU> miyazaki@taichung.NoSubdomain.NoDomain >(Takeshi Miyazaki) writes: > >>>$400 for System and HyperCard??? >>> > > >>Yes, that's right. The upgrade kit comes with > >>Installer disk >>System Tools >>Utilities I + II >>Font disks 1-4 >>HyperCard 2.0-J (lite version) -- two disks. > >>Plus the usual "Macintosh Reference", "Startup", "Getting Started w/HyperCard" >>etc. manuals all translated into Japanese (localized versions of the >>6.0.7 manuals that come with any new Macintosh.) > >Thank you :-) > >two more questions: > >1) Someone says that APDA carries KanjiTalk for $75(?). Is it still on the > list? Does it include manuals? > >2) Is $400 a reasonable price for system software? (I know it's a secondary > system software for most of the users. I also know in Japan we must pay > about $500 if you have imported macs) > > > >Takeshi Miyazaki >miyazaki@ee.princeton.edu Apple Computer, I think, publishes _Develop_ magazine. Each issue of this mag that I've seen comes with a CD that includes the latest version of just about every international Mac OS you could imagine. Including KanjiTalk. I don't have a clue what licensing restrictions there might be. There are 4 issues per year, at $10.00 each in the US. International subscriptions available through 815-734-4205. (Disclaimer: I do work at Apple, but I have no connection with _Develop_ and am not recommending it other than as a user/reader). -- **************************************************************************** Eric House "My employer doesn't share its opinions with me, so I can share only mine with you"
baumgart@esquire.dpw.com (Steve Baumgarten) (05/02/91)
In article <52209@apple.Apple.COM> ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House) writes:
Apple Computer, I think, publishes _Develop_ magazine. Each issue
of this mag that I've seen comes with a CD that includes the latest
version of just about every international Mac OS you could imagine.
Including KanjiTalk.
This is correct. Just for fun, I installed KanjiTalk 6.0.7 in a spare
partition on my hard disk (this was using the software supplied on
the latest "d e v e l o p" CD-ROM). Everything worked as expected,
and it was a kick to see my Mac running in Japanese.
I don't know whether you get more or better documentation when you buy
the "official" package -- probably you do. But this is a nice (and
free) way to get started.
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