triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos) (05/08/91)
Hi.
Today I just installed 7.0f2c2 on my SE with 4M RAM. So far, I haven't really
been paying much attention to the 7.0-related discussions, since I figured,
"Well, they don't directly pertain to me, and I *do* have about 3,128 projects
due next week." So, here's my questions:
1. What goes in the Startup folder? All my inits seem to groan unless they
are put in the Extensions folder.
2. From what I understand, you should be able to use any icon for any
program (this out of May 91 MacUser) (unless my reading skills are far
worse than I thought). Any yea's or nay's?
3. Since I have obviously opened a garbage truck-sized can of worms for
myself by attempting to install 7.0 without knowing dookie-squat about
it, does anyone out there in netland maintain a summary file of all the
little nifties about Apple's new baby?
Please, send e-mail, and I'll post a summary if I can make one.
-Nick Triantos
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In article <TRIANTOS.91May8041355@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu>, triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos) writes... >Today I just installed 7.0f2c2 on my SE with 4M RAM. So far, I haven't really >been paying much attention to the 7.0-related discussions, since I figured, >"Well, they don't directly pertain to me, and I *do* have about 3,128 projects >due next week." So, here's my questions: It's worth waiting for the real release on this -- why go through the hassle of installing FC2 if you can get the real thing on May 13. Moreover, it is worth using the installer for this upgrade. If you want to use virtual memory, you will also need to update your hard disk using the new HD SC setup. This is worth doing systematically; good opportunity to back up, reinitialize, and only add back the things that you really need. System 7 does a few things that I used to do with third-party stuff. For example, I dumped several DeskWriter fonts for the TrueType ones. Screen looks better, hard-copy looks the same, and many K have been saved by getting rid of screen/printer font redundancy. > 1. What goes in the Startup folder? All my inits seem to groan unless they > are put in the Extensions folder. "Inits are EVIL" ** Those inits that I can't live without (Moire, SuperClock, Windowshade, and the Disinfectant init) are loading happily from the "Control Panels" folder. 2.,3. -- Regarding the other questions: I found that I could drive System 7 right off the lot. Fine points that aren't covered by "Balloon Help" or the built-in "Finder ShortCuts" can wait. When I need more, I'll buy the upgrade or maybe the inevitable Addison-Wesley "Fun with System 7.0". Don't be afraid to experiment. I haven't read an Apple manual yet ... System 7 is more complex than 6, but it doesn't do anything unexpected if you just poke around. Mostly, I just found myself discovering unexpected "nice" touches -- I was up all night saying "Wow". This upgrade might be like going from the first HFS system to 6.0.5 with MF all in one leap ... substantial changes but the same ideas apply ... it's just better, that's all. -- Bill (johnston@minnie.me.udel.edu) ** Michael Libes, author of _Launch
d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) (05/09/91)
In article <53022@nigel.ee.udel.edu> johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu writes: >Today I just installed 7.0f2c2 on my SE with 4M RAM. So far, I haven't If you want to use virtual memory, you will also need to update your hard disk using the new HD SC setup. This is worth doing systematically; He's also going to have to shell out lots of $$ for a SE->SE/30 upgrade, Plusses, SEs, Classics and LCs can't use virtual memory, since they have no MMU. Neither can the original II. Remember he was a virgin, don't give him hopes that will disappoint him :-) -- Jon W{tte h+@nada.kth.se - Power !
jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) (05/10/91)
In article <D88-JWA.91May9143643@byse.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes: >In article <53022@nigel.ee.udel.edu> johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu writes: > > >Today I just installed 7.0f2c2 on my SE with 4M RAM. So far, I haven't > > If you want to use virtual memory, you will also need to update your > hard disk using the new HD SC setup. This is worth doing systematically; > >He's also going to have to shell out lots of $$ for a SE->SE/30 >upgrade, Plusses, SEs, Classics and LCs can't use virtual memory, >since they have no MMU. Neither can the original II. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Without adding the ~$175 PMMU chip, that is. jas -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey A. Sullivan | Senior Systems Programmer jas@venera.isi.edu | Information Sciences Institute jas@isi.edu | University of Southern California
johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) (05/10/91)
In article <D88-JWA.91May9143643@byse.nada.kth.se>, d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes... >In article <53022@nigel.ee.udel.edu> johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu writes: > Virgin >>Today I just installed 7.0f2c2 on my SE with 4M RAM. J> If you want to use virtual memory, you will also need to update your J> hard disk using the new HD SC setup. This is worth doing systematically; W>He's also going to have to shell out lots of $$ for a SE->SE/30 W>upgrade, Plusses, SEs, Classics and LCs can't use virtual memory, W>since they have no MMU. Neither can the original II. W>Remember he was a virgin, don't give him hopes that will disappoint W>him :-) I see the "smiley" and understand the point, but I think that a 4 meg SE is a reasonable platform for 7.0. System 7 has many "nice" features that don't require a IIfx -- they are just better. You don't have to run virtual memory to run 7, either. I turned it on once and went back to using my 5 meg physical. It's just another "nice" thing that is there if you need it. Not such an earth-shattering, Mac-user-schism-ing thing at all. It costs a bit more ram to load, but it also replaced a few ram-hungry inits. My System/Finder partition under 7 takes 1.4 meg; under 6.0.5 it was System 800K , Finder 288K. That's not such a big difference. -- Bill Johnston (johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu) -- 38 Chambers St.; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) (05/10/91)
In article <D88-JWA.91May9143643@byse.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes: >He's also going to have to shell out lots of $$ for a SE->SE/30 >upgrade, Plusses, SEs, Classics and LCs can't use virtual memory, >since they have no MMU. Neither can the original II. My original II is screaming in protest at this slander. Seems someone took its H_MMU_ out, stuck it in a plastic box marked "REUSABLE CONTAINER-- DO NOT DISCARD", and stuck the previous contents of the box in the II. -- Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu .sig under construction, like the rest of this campus.