jpf10694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Peter Fleck) (05/14/91)
Hello, I just got off the phone with a Forsythe Computer dealer here in NorthWest Indiana, and he said "No, 7.0 should be out in a couple of days" to which I replied "It's May 14th today.. It was supposed to be out yesterday..." After discussing this further, he told me that the only way to get it was to buy the whole package. I asked if I could just bring in some high dens, but he said no. Is this true? Can someone clarify this for me before I go running off to some dealer? Please e-mail an answer if you don't mind. Thanks. /----------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joseph P. Fleck |"Yeah, I got some hostages the other day... | | University of Illinois | Well, you see so many people WITH hostages | | Urbana/Champaign | these days and you say - | | INTERNET: | 'Hey! I'd like some too!'" - Steve Martin | | jpf10694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | Comedy is not Pretty | \----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ (I'm on break.. You can still e-mail me there ^)
gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) (05/15/91)
In article <1991May14.160311.20573@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jpf10694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Peter Fleck) writes: > Hello, > I just got off the phone with a Forsythe Computer dealer here > in NorthWest Indiana, and he said "No, 7.0 should be out in a couple of > days" to which I replied "It's May 14th today.. It was supposed to be > out yesterday..." After discussing this further, he told me that the > only way to get it was to buy the whole package. I asked if I could just > bring in some high dens, but he said no. Is this true? Can someone > clarify this for me before I go running off to some dealer? Please > e-mail an answer if you don't mind. Thanks. I work with a university micro store (with them, not for them). With the advent of system 7.0, the size of the system has become a lot larger and having people come in off the streets to copy disks is not as practical. We've also found problems with people coming in to copy system software, and "just happen" to pick up copies of commercial software that is also on our Macs (there for demonstration purposes). This will not do. So our plan for 7.0 is that we will have some students who work for us do the copies of the floppies. We'll sell those for a buck per disk, or something like that, so it won't cost the user much more than buying blank floppies. The objective is not to make a buck, it's to solve the hassles of lots of people showing up and expecting immediate access to a Mac just to make copies of the system software. So, I can't speak for your dealer, but it sounds like they might be up to something similar. If you absolutely must have it today, you have to buy the package from Apple. If you can wait a few days you should be able to get copies of the floppies for a minimal cost. - - - - - - - - - - Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@rpi.edu or gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) (05/15/91)
In article <ag_hj.+@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: [assorted stuff about our local university store's plans for system 7.0 distribution] Whoops, didn't mean to post that... RPI folk please note, those are our PLANS. The RPI store hasn't actually received system 7.0 yet, so don't come running down expecting to pick up a copy of the new system software yet!!! - - - - - - - - Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@rpi.edu or gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
mha@theory.tn.cornell.edu (Mark H. Anbinder) (05/17/91)
In article <1991May14.160311.20573@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jpf10694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Peter Fleck) writes: > I just got off the phone with a Forsythe Computer dealer here >in NorthWest Indiana, and he said "No, 7.0 should be out in a couple of >days" to which I replied "It's May 14th today.. It was supposed to be >out yesterday..." After discussing this further, he told me that the >only way to get it was to buy the whole package. I asked if I could just >bring in some high dens, but he said no. Is this true? This dealer is unfortunately experiencing what most of us are... System 7 is in extremely short supply. We only got TWO of the Personal Upgrade Kits in time for the release, and only because we paid for overnight shipping. As a result, we haven't been able to SELL any copies of the official package. We instead made copies for people to purchase. Not all dealers will do this, though... dealers are under no OBLIGATION to provide anything other than the Apple product versions of the upgrades, the Personal Upgrade Kit ($99) and the Group Upgrade Kit ($349). It's simply something that we CAN do, since we are licensed to distribute the software. Like the campus computer store employee who followed up to your posting, my company is selling pre-copied sets of system disks ($20 for a set, which is actually based on our $2 per disk single-disk price). We ARE letting people copy the disks if they REALLY want to use their own disks, but since we charge for computer time, it's not free. Good luck getting System 7! I have no doubt you'll find a dealer or a licensed user group who'll provide an inexpensive copy for you. -- Mark H. Anbinder ************************* mha@theory.tn.cornell.edu BAKA Computers * ******* ...!batcomputer!memory!mha 200 Pleasant Grove Rd. H: (607) 257-3480 ****** Ithaca, NY 14850 W: (607) 257-2070 ***** Memory Alpha BBS 607-257-5822