[comp.sys.mac.system] upgrdaing lots of Macs to 7

philip@pescadero.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick) (05/11/91)

Someone recently posted a long article about the benefits of System 7 (sorry, I
lost the reference). One of the things he mentioned was you could use Personal
AppleShare to avoid fumbling with 6 installation disks on every machine you
install on. "Yes," I thought, "and how is this going to work, since you don't
have 7 on the machines you want to install on?" Then it occurred to me that the
following might work. Maybe someone who actually has a copy of 7 could comment.

  1. Install on one Mac, and make everything needed to install
     available through Personal AppleShare
  2. For each type of Mac you want to install on, create a
     startup disk with a minimal version of System 7, and drop an
     alias of the installer script for that machine in the Startup
     folder.
  3. Pass copies of the disks created in step 2 to everyone with a
     Mac on the network, and tell them to restart with that disk.

Philip Machanick

bskendig@bird.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) (05/11/91)

In article <1991May10.191346.2478@neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@pescadero.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick) writes:
>Someone recently posted a long article about the benefits of System 7 (sorry,
>I lost the reference).

That was me.  ;)

>One of the things he mentioned was you could use Personal
>AppleShare to avoid fumbling with 6 installation disks on every machine you
>install on. "Yes," I thought, "and how is this going to work, since you don't
>have 7 on the machines you want to install on?" Then it occurred to me that
>the following might work. Maybe someone who actually has a copy of 7 could
>comment.

[steps deleted]

It's not that difficult.  Here are the instructions I got with 7.0b1
about network installation; these may or may not still be valid, but
any differences with the final release will probably be minor.  Use
this just to satisy your curiosity for right now -- be sure to follow
whatever directions come with System 7.0 final, and ignore these then!

To set up the files on the machine that people will be installing
from:

1. Drag each disk icon to the hard drive icon.  This will copy the
contents of each disk to a folder with the same name on the hard
drive.

2. Create a folder named "7.0 Network Install", and drag the other
folders into it.

3. Move the files "Installer" and "Install" from the "Install 1"
folder out to the top level of the "7.0 Network Install" folder.

4. Make sure file sharing is turned on, and set the privileges on the
"7.0 Network Install" folder to "see folders" and "see files", "change
all enclosed folders".

To install over System 6.0x on a networked machine:

1. Mount the volume with the System 7.0 installation files on it.

2. Run the "Installer" program, and tell it to install over your
current system software.

And that's all there is to it!

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fore@athena.cs.uga.edu (Howard Fore) (05/14/91)

In article <1991May10.191346.2478@neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@pescadero.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick) writes:
>"Yes," I thought, "and how is this going to work, since you don't

It works because any machine running System 6.0x can mount a published drive of a machine running System 7.0


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billing@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Wayne Billing) (05/21/91)

In <1991May10.191346.2478@neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@pescadero.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick) writes:

>Someone recently posted a long article about the benefits of System 7 (sorry, I
>lost the reference). One of the things he mentioned was you could use Personal
>AppleShare to avoid fumbling with 6 installation disks on every machine you
>install on. "Yes," I thought, "and how is this going to work, since you don't
>have 7 on the machines you want to install on?" Then it occurred to me that the
>following might work. Maybe someone who actually has a copy of 7 could comment.

>  1. Install on one Mac, and make everything needed to install
>     available through Personal AppleShare
>  2. For each type of Mac you want to install on, create a
>     startup disk with a minimal version of System 7, and drop an
>     alias of the installer script for that machine in the Startup
>     folder.
>  3. Pass copies of the disks created in step 2 to everyone with a
>     Mac on the network, and tell them to restart with that disk.

>Philip Machanick

Sounds like too much work.
A System 7 machine set up as an AppleShare server can be accessed by any
workstation that can access an AppleShare server (regardless of version of
system the workstation is running). I have attached to a System 7 server
this way and it works. I have NOT tried upgradeing other workstations this
way but I can't think of anything wrong with trying to do so (of course I
had nothing to do with the creation of System 7 so what do I know really?)

Good luck
Wayne
billing@ccm.UManitoba.CA

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brett@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Brett Morrow) (05/21/91)

In article <1991May21.001344.22799@ccu.umanitoba.ca> billing@ccu.umanitoba.ca
(Wayne Billing) writes:
>In <1991May10.191346.2478@neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
(Philip Machanick) writes:
>
>>Someone recently posted a long article about the benefits of System 7 (sorry,
I
>>lost the reference). One of the things he mentioned was you could use
Personal
>>AppleShare to avoid fumbling with 6 installation disks on every machine you
>>install on. "Yes," I thought, "and how is this going to work, since you don't
>>have 7 on the machines you want to install on?" Then it occurred to me that
the
>>following might work. Maybe someone who actually has a copy of 7 could
comment.
>
>>  1. Install on one Mac, and make everything needed to install
>>     available through Personal AppleShare
>>  2. For each type of Mac you want to install on, create a
>>     startup disk with a minimal version of System 7, and drop an
>>     alias of the installer script for that machine in the Startup
>>     folder.
>>  3. Pass copies of the disks created in step 2 to everyone with a
>>     Mac on the network, and tell them to restart with that disk.
>
>>Philip Machanick
>
>Sounds like too much work.
>A System 7 machine set up as an AppleShare server can be accessed by any
>workstation that can access an AppleShare server (regardless of version of
>system the workstation is running). I have attached to a System 7 server
>this way and it works. I have NOT tried upgradeing other workstations this
>way but I can't think of anything wrong with trying to do so (of course I
>had nothing to do with the creation of System 7 so what do I know really?)
>
>Good luck
>Wayne
>billing@ccm.UManitoba.CA


Get the Network installer set from Ftp.apple.com.  I put it on my 
machine running System 7.  They I set up guest accout to the folder 
with sharing turned on.  I then went to another machine and just connected
using chooser appleshare (system 6.0.7) and ran the 
network installer.  It updated the local HD to system 7.  You will 
probably want to get the Disktools disk and take it around after
the upgrade and update the driver for apple drives and also run disk first aid
(there have always been repairs needed for us).


    Brett
Brett 

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