[comp.sys.mac.system] Getting System 7

system@dorsai (Dorsai Sysop) (05/09/91)

With S-Day four days away by my clock, I've started wondering whether or not 
I should get System 7. Knowing nothing about the new System, recent 
discussions in c.s.m.s have been telling me about the trees when I need an 
aerial view of the forest.
Ergo, I present my questions:
    * I have a 2.5MB Mac SE with a built-in 20MB HD and an 800K floppy 
drive, as well as a 2MB Classic with a 40MB HD and an FDHD drive. I have 
about 20 INITS (including ATM 2.0 and Suitcase II 1.2.8) and use the 
JetWriter hack from Extended Systems/Insight Development to run my HP IIP 
printer at 230Kbaud (hot, hunh?)
    * What will System 7 do for me?
    * What will I have to give up for System 7?
    * How much will I have to pay for System 7?
    * What would be the dangers of *not* going to System 7?
    * Will I have enough disk space for System 7?
    * Will all my apps (specifically: Word 4.0, Excel 2.2, RSG! 4.5, Quark 
3.0v2, Zterm 0.85, Superpaint 2.0, etc.) work with System 7 and what can I 
do if they don't?
    * How about my DAs and INITs?
    * Under System 7, will I still be able to exchange things with my 
friends' System 6 machines?
 
I'm currently using 6.0.4 on the SE and 6.0.7 on the Classic with Finder 6.1 
and MF 6.god_only_knows_but_not_.1b9.
Thanks,
----Sascha

bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) (05/26/91)

rc7@prism.gatech.EDU (Richard Catrambone) writes:
|I have not read the newsgroup in a while, but my quick
|scan (based on headers) leads me to wonder the following:
|  If I get System 7.0 via ftp.apple.com (which I assume
|  is perfectly legal?), what do I do about documentation?

It's AOK to FTP System 7 from ftp.apple.com (which is the ONLY Apple
machine that has it!) and install it from there. You could buy a
third-party book about System 7. I haven't read any of them. They're
probably fine. You will rely on your own wiles and the Usenet for
support. 

Or, if Georgia Tech is being keen, they might help you upgrade, which
would save hours of downloading time (and leave the time for others),
and they might sell the Apple documentation sets as well, for some
reasonable price. They might support you, as well.

Or, you could buy your upgrade from a user group. They typically want
about $30 for the disks, and don't give you manuals, but might give
you support. You might have to become a member.

Or, your dealer might offer to let you copy System 7 from his disks.
Since it's about a dozen disks, he might not. He's allowed to, but not
required to, by Apple. He's also entitled to sell those disks for
"reasonable cost." You'd still have to get documentation, and where
you get support is up to you and your dealer.

If you do buy your Personal Upgrade Kit from a dealer, though, you
will get dealer support AND toll-free telephone tech support from
Apple, along with all the disks from the other releases, and about 5
lbs of documentation, for $100 or thereabouts. I personally think this
is a very reasonable price, and since I buy all my upgrades, I'll go
get a PUK in a week or so when demand dies down.

NOTE: upgrades from dealers include a "minimal" Hypercard 2.1 (minimal
stacks, that is, not minimal features -- it's the same Hypercard
program, just less auxiliary stacks), whereas upgrades from user
groups do not. On the other hand, I'm told that Claris will send 2.1
to registered users soon. I can't wait to get mine. Even though I do
have the stacks, it'll be nice to have the new documentation.

COMPATIBILITY NOTE: The "Compatibility Checker" hypercard stack runs
under both Hypercard 1.2 and later, and Hypercard 2 and later. 

OVERSEAS NOTE: System 7 is being localized to specific versions for
specific countries right now. It will be released "this summer" for
the most part. If you want to FTP the american System 7 right now, I
don't see any reason not to. Your Apple dealer (or Apple company
office) might also be able to sell/give/loan you an american 7.
Support issues overseas are not resolved at this time. Ask someone
there. 

bill coderre
whose opinions are not those of the Stripey Fruit CompuCo or its subsidiaries