gtephx (Mike Pflueger) (05/21/91)
Well, the subject says it all. I thought background printing for the ImageWriter was supposed to be a feature of system 7? Did I miss the un-announcement of it? Or is it there with a non-obvious trick to turning it on? Mike -- Mike Pflueger @ AG Communication Systems (formerly GTE Comm. Sys.), Phoenix, AZ UUCP: {...!ames!ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!hrc | att}!gtephx!pfluegerm Work: 602-582-7049 FAX: 602-582-7624 Home: 602-439-1978 Packet: WD8KPZ @ KB7TV.AZ.USA.NA Internet: gtephx!pfluegerm@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) (05/22/91)
In article <1991May20.200345.26003@...!asuvax!gtephx>, pfluegerm@... !asuvax!gtephx (Mike Pflueger) writes... >I thought background printing for the ImageWriter was supposed to >be a feature of system 7? Did I miss the un-announcement of it? This was apparently blown out for this release. It's unclear whether it's ever coming, but let me say I would LIKE IT VERY MUCH!!! I'm sick of waiting for my Imagewriter. We're up to System 7 (!) for Pete's sake (who's Pete?) and still no spooling from Apple for the low-cost printers. FWIW, I currently use SuperLaserSpool, which does not work for me under System 7. I called Fifth Generation and they said an upgrade would be out in "about a month". Pricing is not set, because they are not sure whether new features will be added, or if it will be just a compatibility release. SET TEMP=HIGH A month!!?? Like System 7 was a SURPRISE to them? Sigh. SET TEMP=NORMAL Richard C. Long | long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com | Selfware: If you like --------------- | ...!decwrl!mcntsh.enet.dec.com!long | this program, send A First Edition | long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com | yourself five bucks!
pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin) (05/25/91)
pfluegerm@...!asuvax!gtephx (Mike Pflueger) writes: >Well, the subject says it all. >I thought background printing for the ImageWriter was supposed to >be a feature of system 7? Did I miss the un-announcement of it? >Or is it there with a non-obvious trick to turning it on? >Mike >-- >Mike Pflueger @ AG Communication Systems (formerly GTE Comm. Sys.), Phoenix, AZ > UUCP: {...!ames!ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!hrc | att}!gtephx!pfluegerm > Work: 602-582-7049 FAX: 602-582-7624 Home: 602-439-1978 >Packet: WD8KPZ @ KB7TV.AZ.USA.NA Internet: gtephx!pfluegerm@asuvax.eas.asu.edu System 7.0 was to have (summer '89 features on Applelink) the layout manager and the printing manager. The layout manager was to "standardize" all sorts of font related gizmos, this never happened (TrueType was not invented at this point in time). The printing manager was to set up a standard way in which ALL printers would spool in the same manner. The printers would even be on the desktop (this was pictured in Macworld or something in 1990). I heard (I forget when and where) that the printing manager was ready, but that the layout manager was behind schedule. The claim was that the new printing manager relied partially on the layout manager to run. Apple finally decided to 'can' the printing manager and replace the layout manager with TrueType ( this was during the Adobe Wars.... ). At least half of the features announced in 1988 never made it to the real System 7. Other features like FileShare (a.k.a personal appleshare) were added-on and were not part of the original specs. I guess this was the result of Apple rushing to establish a 7.0 features list when OS/2 with Presentation Manager came out. If you look back, the OS/2 PM threat remains a joke. I've only seen it in magazines! I've never seen a store that demoed it, I've never known a user that uses it. That's too bad in a way, since OS/2 with PM is probably the most underrated OS. This thing has REAL multitasking, Virtual Memory, Threads, etc... and has had these features from day 1 (>2 years ago). Apple is really lucky that MicroSoft doesn't know how to market and enhance this product, it *might* of made a lot of damage in the marketplace. Imagine OS/2 with PM for $99 instead of the $325 they were asking for at the time, Windows 3 would not have existed ! Luckily for Apple, Windows 3.0 has almost replaced the OS/2 with PM combo as the environment of choice on PCs. This ensures a healthy future for the Mac OS, since an enhanced version of OS/2 with PM would have some SERIOUS advantages over the Mac in terms of multitasking/multithreading capabilities. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pascal Gosselin | Internet: P.Gosselin@CAM.ORG Applelink: CDA0585 | | Gest-Mac Inc. Apple VAR | Voice (514) 767-4444 Fax (514) 767-7337 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
peirce@outpost.UUCP (Michael Peirce) (05/26/91)
In article <1991May25.042015.17871@CAM.ORG>, pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin) writes: > If you look back, the > OS/2 PM threat remains a joke. I've only seen it in magazines! I've > never seen a store that demoed it, I've never known a user that uses it. That's > too bad in a way, since OS/2 with PM is probably the most underrated OS. This > thing has REAL multitasking, Virtual Memory, Threads, etc... and has had > these features from day 1 (>2 years ago). Apple is really lucky... It just goes to show you that "REAL multitasking, Virtual Memory, Threads, etc" aren't what sell Personal Computers. -- michael -- Michael Peirce -- outpost!peirce@claris.com -- Peirce Software -- Suite 301, 719 Hibiscus Place -- Macintosh Programming -- San Jose, California 95117 -- & Consulting -- (408) 244-6554, AppleLink: PEIRCE