wendell@ncc.uky.edu (Wendell McCarty <wendell>) (05/24/91)
Has any noticed any sudden memory loss with system 7? On several occasions I have noticed that some of my applications would not run because of an out of memory error. This was confusing since I had no other apps active at the time and I am running a IIcx with 8 megs. When I pulled down About this macintosh, I noticed that the sum of the system software size plus the unused size was several megs off from the actual available size. Later I noticed that when I issued the command option esc to stop finder that I lost about 300k. One other time I noticed that my system software had swollen to 6.6 megs. Anyone else experiencing these problems? Is this a feature, a flaw, or an act of a hungry system? Wendell McCarty University of Kentucky
gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) (05/25/91)
In article <1991May24.153803.4021@ms.uky.edu> wendell@ncc.uky.edu (Wendell McCarty <wendell>) writes: > Has any noticed any sudden memory loss with system 7? > > On several occasions I have noticed that some of my applications would > not run because of an out of memory error. This was confusing since I > had no other apps active at the time and I am running a IIcx with 8 megs. I've notice this at times too. It hasn't disrupted my life enough to look into the cause, but it would be nice if it didn't happen. - - - - - - - - Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@rpi.edu or gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Andrew Burchill) (05/25/91)
In <.3ghas-@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: >In article <1991May24.153803.4021@ms.uky.edu> wendell@ncc.uky.edu (Wendell >McCarty <wendell>) writes: >> Has any noticed any sudden memory loss with system 7? >> >> On several occasions I have noticed that some of my applications would >> not run because of an out of memory error. This was confusing since I >> had no other apps active at the time and I am running a IIcx with 8 megs. >I've notice this at times too. It hasn't disrupted my life enough to look into >the cause, but it would be nice if it didn't happen. > - - - - - - - - >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@rpi.edu or gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Are either of you running any INITs (opps extensions) or control panels that you used under 6.0.7 or 5? I remember reading that some INITs continued to take up more and more system memory as time went by. This occured under multifinder where the system heap is dynamically allocated. Charles >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
macman@wpi.WPI.EDU (Chris Silverberg) (05/25/91)
In an article wendell@ncc.uky.edu (Wendell McCarty <wendell>) rambles: >Has any noticed any sudden memory loss with system 7? >On several occasions I have noticed that some of my applications would >not run because of an out of memory error. This was confusing since I >had no other apps active at the time and I am running a IIcx with 8 megs. A few people have reported this... I have never seen it though. I'm wondering if it is machine or extension dependant....?? >Later I noticed that when I issued the command option esc to stop finder >that I lost about 300k. This is probably normal. If you stop the finder, it will immediately start up again. As a result, the space occupied by the killed finder might still be considered "occupied" by the new finder. So, it would load in a different area, causing your memory to become fragmented in a different way, thus decreasing the size of the "largest block". Make sense? - Chris =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chris Silverberg INTERNET: macman@wpi.wpi.edu Worcester Polytechnic Institute Main Street USA 508-832-7725 (sysop) America Online: TfChris WMUG BBS 508-832-5844 (sysop)
gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) (05/25/91)
In article <1991May24.200958.1239@ccu.umanitoba.ca> burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Andrew Burchill) writes: > In <.3ghas-@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > > >In article <1991May24.153803.4021@ms.uky.edu> > > wendell@ncc.uky.edu (Wendell McCarty <wendell>) writes: > >> Has any noticed any sudden memory loss with system 7? > >> > >> On several occasions I have noticed that some of my applications would > >> not run because of an out of memory error. This was confusing since I > >> had no other apps active at the time and I am running a IIcx with 8 megs. > > >I've notice this at times too. It hasn't disrupted my life enough to look > >into the cause, but it would be nice if it didn't happen. > > Are either of you running any INITs (opps extensions) or control panels > that you used under 6.0.7 or 5? I remember reading that some INITs > continued to take up more and more system memory as time went by. This > occured under multifinder where the system heap is dynamically allocated. I am slowly but surely rebuilding the massive set of inits I used with 6.0.7. Right now I'm running Pyro 4.0.1, Superclock 3.9, Suitcase II 1.2.10, PopChar 1.7, MacTCP 1.0.1, MacsBug 6.2b3, CD Remote Init 1.1.2, Foreign File Access 1.1.1 (part of the CD rom software), Apple CD-ROM 3.0 or 3.1 (depending on which version number you read...), Ethertalk version 1.2 (note: Phase 1), plus all the things that came with system 7 itself. The machine is a Mac IIci with 4 meg of RAM, virtual memory turned off, 32-bit addressing turned off, file-sharing turned on. - - - - - - - - Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@rpi.edu or gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA - - - - - - - - Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@rpi.edu or gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
weiss@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss) (05/25/91)
In article <1991May24.153803.4021@ms.uky.edu> wendell@ncc.uky.edu (Wendell McCarty <wendell>) writes: > Has any noticed any sudden memory loss with system 7? Gee, I forget... (HUGE GRIN) Sorry, but I couldn't resist... -- \ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | / - Michael Weiss weiss@watson.seas.ucla.edu | School of Engineering and - - izzydp5@oac.ucla.edu | Applied Science, UCLA - / | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \
scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine) (05/28/91)
In article <1991May24.153803.4021@ms.uky.edu> wendell@ncc.uky.edu (Wendell McCarty <wendell>) writes: >Has any noticed any sudden memory loss with system 7? > Huh? Wha? Where am I? What is this "IIci" thing? What happened to my 512k Mac? What happened to the Finder? :-) -- scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Stuart M Castergine "The thought of failure never occurs to me." --Evaine