tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) (05/29/91)
Has anyone downloaded Applicon from comp.binaries.mac and gotten it to work? I've tried it a couple of times, and the copy on our machine sometimes gives a crc error in debinhexing and then sometimes apparently does fine only to blow up with "-39" error when I try to run it. So-- Is it this particular file, my IIsi, or what? If the problem is just mine, please e-mail; if you've had the same experience, e-mail or post as you see fit. -- Tom Maddox tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu "It is imperative to write invulnerable sentences." -- Hugo Ball
SYSMEST@gecrdvm1.crd.ge.com (05/29/91)
In article <1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu>, tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) says: > > Has anyone downloaded Applicon from comp.binaries.mac and gotten >it to work? I've tried it a couple of times, and the copy on our machine >sometimes gives a crc error in debinhexing and then sometimes apparently >does fine only to blow up with "-39" error when I try to run it. > So-- > Is it this particular file, my IIsi, or what? > If the problem is just mine, please e-mail; if you've had the > same experience, e-mail or post as you see fit. I noticed that one of the lines in the binhex listing of Applicon seemed to go on forever. I figured that this would make binex barff, so I didn't even waste time downloading from our mainframe to my mac. Hopefully a corrected copy will be posted... Mark...
gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (05/29/91)
In article <1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu>, tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) writes: > > Has anyone downloaded Applicon from comp.binaries.mac and gotten >it to work? I've tried it a couple of times, and the copy on our machine >sometimes gives a crc error in debinhexing... I saved the two Applicon messages and merged them here on my VAX before downloading them. (I can call it my VAX, I'm the sysadmin! :-) Quick-scrolling through the .hqx file revealed one line that went beyond the "normal" column length (70?). I put in an carriage return at the appropriate column, and the excess lined up with the rest. The subsequent download and debinhexed application worked fine. (Applicon was just binhexed, no compression) So, it would seem that there is a single missing carriage return in the binhex of Applicon that was posted to comp.binaries.mac., resulting in one line that is double-length. Find that line, insert the carriage return, and things should work fine. (It did for me). On a reviewing note, Applicon looks to be an incredibly useful utility, especially for people who tend to run a number of applications simultaneously, and who have a 13" screen or larger. Also, the ballon help is very well implemented (it's the first example of ballon help I've seen other than the Finder). It's nice to turn Balloon Help on during that "exploratory" stage. (BTW, Applicon is at ftp.apple.com in the dts/mac/hacks directory, but the file protection is such that you can't ftp it. The new DarkSide and Xferit are also in the same boat... I've sent mail off to Mark Johnson, so he knows about it.) --- Jim Gaynor - AgVAX System Manager - Academic Computing - Ohio State University VMS:<gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu> UNIX:<gaynor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Disclaimer : All opinions expressed here are mine and only mine. So there! Witty Quote: "Think, think, think, think..." - Winnie-the-Pooh, Taoist Bear.
sardella@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Sardella) (05/29/91)
In article <1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu> tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) writes: > > Has anyone downloaded Applicon from comp.binaries.mac and gotten >it to work? I've tried it a couple of times, and the copy on our machine >sometimes gives a crc error in debinhexing and then sometimes apparently >does fine only to blow up with "-39" error when I try to run it. I had the same problem. There are several places in the file where a line feed is missing. I used a text editor to insert the line feeds and was able to successfully unbinhex using "toaufs" on a Sun. Tom Sardella sardella@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov
jyp@wucs1.wustl.edu (Jerome Yvon Plun) (05/29/91)
In article <91149.074226SYSMEST@GECRDVM1.BITNET> SYSMEST@gecrdvm1.crd.ge.com writes: >In article <1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu>, >tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) says: >> >> Has anyone downloaded Applicon from comp.binaries.mac and gotten >>it to work? I've tried it a couple of times, and the copy on our machine >>sometimes gives a crc error in debinhexing and then sometimes apparently >>does fine only to blow up with "-39" error when I try to run it. >> So-- >> Is it this particular file, my IIsi, or what? >> If the problem is just mine, please e-mail; if you've had the >> same experience, e-mail or post as you see fit. > >I noticed that one of the lines in the binhex listing of Applicon >seemed to go on forever. I figured that this would make binex barff, >so I didn't even waste time downloading from our mainframe to my mac. >Hopefully a corrected copy will be posted... > >Mark... Indeed, one linefeed (or whatever the line ending is) was missing but that didn't bother Binhex and I am now a proud "owner" of this useful tool. (Installed on a IIfx 8/160 with 7.0 from dealer copy). Jerome Jerome Plun [] Is it a crime to want something else? jyp@wucs1.wustl.edu [] Is it a crime to believe in something different? Washington University [] St Louis, MO [] "Smalltown England", New Model Army, Vengeance
rgonzal@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) (05/30/91)
I downloaded Applicaon to my Mac and deleted the comments with an editor. I noticed the extra long lines, but didn't do anything with them. It turned out that Stuffit was able to unbinhex and unstuff it just fine. As another poster already mentioned, this is an incredibly useful utility. The kind of thing which should come with Sys. 7 in the first place, since it saves you the hassle of going to the menu bar each time you want to switch applications or see what else is running... -Ralph (rgonzal@elbereth.rutgers.edu)
ian@umiami.ir.miami.edu (05/30/91)
In article <1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu>, tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) writes: > > Has anyone downloaded Applicon from comp.binaries.mac and gotten > it to work? I've tried it a couple of times, and the copy on our machine > sometimes gives a crc error in debinhexing and then sometimes apparently > does fine only to blow up with "-39" error when I try to run it. > > So-- > > Is it this particular file, my IIsi, or what? > > If the problem is just mine, please e-mail; if you've had the > same experience, e-mail or post as you see fit. > > -- > Tom Maddox > tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu > "It is imperative to write invulnerable sentences." -- Hugo Ball We just got it here...from comp.binaries.mac It worked fine on a Mac II with 8Meg... The Icons are a little too big and it seems kinda cheesy... But thats just my opinion... -- Scruffy Ian Sullivan ******************************************************************************* **ian@umbio.med.miami.edu % "God is dead"- Nietsche ** **ian@umiami.ir.miami.edu % "Nietsche is dead"- God ** **ian@umiami.bitnet % "Nietsche is God"- The Dead ** ** % ** **UUU UMUMMM MMMMMM % "Skate to Kill<-->Kill to Skate" ** **UUU UMU MMM MMM MMM % ** **uUU UMU MMM MMM MMM % "Life's been good to me so far..." -J.W. ** **UUUUUUUUMUof MMMMM MMM % "Give it a while." -Me. ** ******************************************************************************* Damn! Underwater Basket Weaving 302 is filled, well there goes my summer.
johnston@minnie.me.udel.edu (05/30/91)
One problem with Applicon is that some programs create their own tiles on the screen. Example: Kaleidagraph. When Applicon is running along with Kaleidagraph, you get TWO tiles ... Then there is "Tiles" from CE software, which (I remember reading) uses the tile symbol to launch projects. Might be time for a WW Tile conference ... -- Bill
rmh@apple.com (Rick Holzgrafe) (05/30/91)
References:<1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu> <May.29.14.12.10.1991.25330@elbereth.rutgers.edu>
Hi, gang --
I wrote Applicon. A lot of people complained that the recent posting
wouldn't unpack properly. (Sorry about that - it worked for me. :-) I've
put together a new package that is both stuffed and binhexed, and this
will appear at ftp.apple.com and at sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the near
future. (It's already at ftp.apple.com but the permissions are wrong. They
know, and it'll be fixed.)
There's been enough hullabaloo that I think I'd better re-post to
comp.binaries.mac as well. Those of you who couldn't get it the first
time, watch for the re-post.
One bug has appeared that my testing missed (nuts!): the preferences are
apparently saved only if you quit by using Applicon's "Quit" menu item;
quitting by Shutdown or Restart of your Mac won't save your preferences.
Sorry!
And by the way: I love getting mail, but PLEASE stop asking for color and
small icons! I promise, I promise, if I get the spare time, I'll do it! :-)
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Cupertino, CA 95014 | employer, Apple Computer Inc."rmh@apple.com (Rick Holzgrafe) (05/30/91)
Hello again -- In article <13727@goofy.Apple.COM> I wrote: > I wrote Applicon. [...] the preferences are > apparently saved only if you quit by using Applicon's "Quit" menu item; > quitting by Shutdown or Restart of your Mac won't save your preferences. A couple of people have told me this, while a few others simply complained that their preferences weren't being saved. Now that I've had a chance to try it myself, I can't reproduce it at all. So if anyone can give me a better description of the circumstances, I'd be grateful. Thanks -- ========================================================================== Rick Holzgrafe | {sun,voder,nsc,mtxinu,dual}!apple!rmh Software Engineer | AppleLink HOLZGRAFE1 rmh@apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. | "All opinions expressed are mine, and do 20525 Mariani Ave. MS: 3-PK | not necessarily represent those of my Cupertino, CA 95014 | employer, Apple Computer Inc."
jnixon@spam.ua.oz (John Nixon) (05/30/91)
In article <1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu> tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) writes: > Has anyone downloaded Applicon from comp.binaries.mac and gotten >it to work? I've tried it a couple of times, and the copy on our machine >sometimes gives a crc error in debinhexing and then sometimes apparently >does fine only to blow up with "-39" error when I try to run it. Similar here, only error = -192 (I think). No CRC errors though, using mcvert to de-binhex. I even tried *not* putting it in the startup folder, quitting from all other applications, restarting, re-buliding the desktop ... And so it goes. John
philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) (05/30/91)
In article <1991May29.144049.10251@umiami.ir.miami.edu>, ian@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: |> In article <1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu>, tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) writes: |> We just got it here...from comp.binaries.mac |> It worked fine on a Mac II with 8Meg... |> The Icons are a little too big and it seems kinda cheesy... |> But thats just my opinion... I picked it up from comp.binaries.mac. After all the bomb reports, I took the precaution of editing in the missing RETURNs (about 5, I think) before de-binhexing. Works fine on my IIcx. With MacX in the foreground, the Mac icons look slick and professional (just my opinion). -- Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
jgreenberg@phoenix.srl.ford.com (Jeff Greenberg) (05/30/91)
In article <818@spam.ua.oz> jnixon@spam.ua.oz (John Nixon) writes: >In article <1991May29.065627.16525@milton.u.washington.edu> tmaddox@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Maddox) writes: > >> Has anyone downloaded Applicon from comp.binaries.mac and gotten >>it to work? I've tried it a couple of times, and the copy on our machine >>sometimes gives a crc error in debinhexing and then sometimes apparently >>does fine only to blow up with "-39" error when I try to run it. > I had the same problem when I converted it with mcvert. Downloading in .hqx format and de-binhexing with Compact-Pro worked. I think this may be a bug in mcvert.
ching@brahms.amd.com (Mike Ching) (05/31/91)
In article <1991May29.144049.10251@umiami.ir.miami.edu> ian@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: >We just got it here...from comp.binaries.mac >It worked fine on a Mac II with 8Meg... >The Icons are a little too big and it seems kinda cheesy... >But thats just my opinion... I had the same reaction. A good idea but not very aesthetic. Mike Ching
marosen@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Mark Rosen) (05/31/91)
I got it from comp.sys.mac.binaries, and mcvert'ed it, and downloaded
it to my Mac, and it took a generic icon, and wouldn't launch.
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