[comp.sys.mac.system] Icons vs. aliases. Aliases 10 - Icons 0 HELP!!!!!

mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Michael J Kobb) (06/04/91)

Greetings,

  I'm having a curious problem.  Right after I installed System 7, I started
noticing that my icons were disappearing.  Specifically, the icons of the
applications that I use most often change from their proper selves to the
generic app icons, and their document icons sometimes go with them.
Rebuilding the desktop would usually fix the problem, but only for one or two
boots at most.  [System config appears at bottom]

  The situation is this:  my LaCie Cirrus 105 (formatted with SilverLining
5.27) is partitioned into four partitions:  system; swap; apps; data.  For my
most-frequently-used apps, I have aliases in the Apple Menu Items folder on my
startup partition.  Most of the apps reside on the app partition, although a
couple of utilities reside on the system partition.  It was noted that when
the icons went away, the ones for the apps on the system partition stayed.
When the icons went, not only the alias icons, but also the icons of the
original apps, over on the app partition, also changed to the generic app
icon.  When the apps were run, though, the proper icon appeared in the
application menu.

  I've tried everything I could think of. This included: disabling suspicious
inits; disabling ALL extensions; rebuilding the desktop; deleting all the
desktop files with ResEdit and rebuilding from scratch; running the installer
again over the present system; totally wiping my boot partition and installing
from scratch.  All this was to no avail.  After one or two boots, BANG!  Gone.
Genric icons again.

  Finally, I read a suggestion (I think on America Online) to copy the apps in
question to the system partition, then delete them, so that the apropriate
bundle resources would get tossed into the Desktop files on the system
partition.  So, having oodles of space left over after nuking that whole
partition, I said, "Sure" and copied all the apps over.  They're still there,
in fact.  I've rebooted about 15 times now, and all the icons are still there
in the apple menu.  Note:  the aliases still point to the app partition, NOT
to the copies of the apps sitting on the system partition.  I haven't had the
guts to delete the apps from the system partition again yet.

  Would anybody like to hazzard a guess at why I'm seeing this behavior?  I
find it hard to believe that the aliases wouldn't carry the apropriate bundle
info with them!  According to LaCie, v5.27 of SilverLining should be fine,
provided that I'm not using 32-bits, which I'm certainly not, since I'm on a
IIx (hi, Apple...).

  The system can't seriously expect me to actually physically copy aliased
apps to the startup volume temporarily, then delete them!  Even if I do, what
happens the next time the desktop is rebuilt?

  Ideas?  Please?

Thanks!
--Mike

System: Mac IIx, 8Mb, LaCie Cirrus 105 (formatted w/SilverLining 5.27), Apple
RGB with SuperMac ColorCard/24, Radius Pivot, DoubleUP hardware compression
board.  System 7.0 (release version).

Extensions: Sigma Compression INIT, AppleShare, Color Arrow, DAL, DiskDoubler
3.7, Eyeballs, File Sharing, IconWrap, P Key, SmoothClock, Understudy, Type
Align, Radius Ware, CE Toolbox, Dimmer, Easy Access, Mouse2, QuicKeys 2, SCSI
Probe, SoundMaster, SuperClock, Temperament2, DeskPicture, ATM, Super
Boomerang, Super Boomerang Fixer, Disinfectant.

File Sharing is OFF.  VM is OFF.  Program linking is OFF. 32-bit mode is
UNAVAILABLE.  :-(