[comp.sys.mac.system] Can Apple HD SC Setup be hacked

krweiss@ucdavis.edu (06/13/91)

First, thanks to all that replied to my original posting on this topic.

I finally got everything working (kind of!), and I thought I'd post a summary
of what happened:

My initial problem was that my Mac IIci at home would hang on boot-up, after
loading all extensions, but before displaying the desktop. The hang occurred
only when virtual memory was turned on. Since I have a third party Quantum 105
in the Mac in question, I assumed the problem was with the disk driver
software.

To confirm the problem in isolation I did a low-level format with the latest
version of the installation software from the vendor and then immediately
installed System 7.0. Sure enough, I got the same hang on boot-up.

I have an identical IIci system at my work, but with an official Apple 80 Meg
Quantum drive. The work system handled virtual memory with no problems.

My 105 drive vendor swore up and down that there was nothing wrong with their
drivers, and that they had numerous systems running virtual memory under both
24 and 32 bit modes.

Just to prove that the problem was the third party drive, I removed it from my
machine at home and installed it in my IIci at work. Virtual memory worked
perfectly!

I then took the 80 Meg drive out of my machine at work and installed it at
home. It worked fine, too.

My situation was now this:

Home: 105 doesn't work, 80 does
Work: 105 works, 80 works

Pretty weird... So, I did the last thing I could think of. I started removing
things from the system at home. Keyboard -- still broken. I pulled 4 megs of
RAM out of Bank B. IT WORKED! I began swapping the SIMMs from Bank B into Bank
A one at a time, trying to isolate the bad SIMM. All of them worked. I then put
the 4 Meg back in Bank B. It still worked -- the problem had gone away.

There are only two things I can figure caused the problem in the first place.
My best guess is that something in the third party drivers misbehaved when RAM
was available in Bank B. When the RAM in Bank B was missing, a default was
rewritten, and the system worked fine from then on. The other possibility is
that the RAM just wasn't installed properly, but since the 80 Meg drive
functioned just fine in the system before I began messing around with it, I
doubt this is the case.

The only remaining oddity is that it seems to matter what order the files in my
Startup Items folder load. If Freehand 3.0 loads first, the system hangs. By
renaming the alias with a Z in front, everything works.

This was without a doubt the most frustrating problem I've ever encountered. I
still don't really know what happened -- all I know is things are working
now... BTW, the third party drive is a MacInStor, from Storage Dimensions.
Their technical support and service has been excellent, and I recommend their
products without hesitation.

Ken Weiss
krweiss@ucdavis.edu