atschnei@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Todd Schneider) (06/07/91)
This is probably a stupid question ..... Is it possible to use the built-in file sharing in System 7.0 over a modem connection? What is required to get this working (aside from two Macs running 7.0 and two modems)? T. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- + University of Waterloo | atschnei@vlsi.waterloo.edu + + Department of Electrical Engineering | atschnei@vlsi.uwaterloo.ca + + VLSI Group | Office:(519)885-1211 x3896 +
hilbish@en.ecn.purdue.edu (David B Hilbish) (06/08/91)
In article <1991Jun7.153105.2514@vlsi.waterloo.edu> atschnei@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Todd Schneider) writes: >This is probably a stupid question ..... > >Is it possible to use the built-in file sharing in >System 7.0 over a modem connection? What is required >to get this working (aside from two Macs running 7.0 >and two modems)? > >T. >-- I would really like to do this also. If anybody has any suggestions I would like the answer also. Mail hilbish@gimli.bio.purdue.edu
gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies) (06/09/91)
I am also interested in file sharing over a modem. Please include me --
weiss@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss) (06/10/91)
>In article <1991Jun7.153105.2514@vlsi.waterloo.edu> atschnei@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Todd Schneider) writes: >>Is it possible to use the built-in file sharing in >>System 7.0 over a modem connection? What is required >>to get this working (aside from two Macs running 7.0 >>and two modems)? >I would really like to do this also. If anybody has any suggestions I >would like the answer also. Seeing as how this has been asked by more than one person, I'm responding in a post. I would assume that the only way to properly do this would be by using Liaison on the two machines. However, I have not heard anything in the way of Sys7 compatibility with Liaison...you may have to contact Farallon to find this out. -- \ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | / - Michael weiss@seas.ucla.edu | School of Engineering & Applied Science - - Weiss izzydp5@oac.ucla.edu | University of California, Los Angeles - / | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \
ajauch@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Alexander Edwin Jauch) (06/12/91)
In <1991Jun7.153105.2514@vlsi.waterloo.edu> atschnei@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Todd Schneider) writes: >This is probably a stupid question ..... >Is it possible to use the built-in file sharing in >System 7.0 over a modem connection? What is required >to get this working (aside from two Macs running 7.0 >and two modems)? I responded to the original poster by mail, but since there is so much interest, I will respond here as well. First of all, you don't need two system 7 macs. One will do, the other can be running just about any version. System 7 simply incorporates standard AppleShare. Secondly, I don't think there is a product that is directly designed to do what you are proposing. There are many apps that allow file sharing over a modem, but none that specifically take advantage of personal AppleShare. What I would reccomend is Timbuktu Remote. It allows you do dial up the host mac from a remote station and USE the host like you where there. It also supports file transfer. The other option (this is good if you already have a network) is to attach a network modem (Shiva has one, forget what it's called) and simply dial up the network and use the system 7 mac's files like you where there. Another poster suggested Liasson. I don't understand this suggestion, I was not aware that Liasson had dial-in capabilities. As far as I know, Liasson is simply a router that runs in the background. Please correct me on this if I'm wrong. -- Alex Jauch *ajauch@bonnie.ics.uci.edu |"If all you have is a hammer, then the whole* *ajauch@orion.oac.uci.edu |world looks like a nail" -- Stolen *
conrad@popvax.uucp (M20400@c.nobili) (06/12/91)
<2855244A.1508@ics.uci.edu> ajauch@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Alexander Edwin Jauch): ><1991Jun7.153105.2514@vlsi.waterloo.edu> atschnei@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Todd Schneider): >>Is it possible to use the built-in file sharing in >>System 7.0 over a modem connection? What is required >>to get this working (aside from two Macs running 7.0 >>and two modems)? >Secondly, I don't think there is a product that is directly designed to do >what you are proposing. There are many apps that allow file sharing over >a modem, but none that specifically take advantage of personal AppleShare. >What I would reccomend is Timbuktu Remote. It allows you do dial up the >host mac from a remote station and USE the host like you where there. It >also supports file transfer. Remote control of a Mac is not always what people want. I know that Timbuktu Remote also includes some file transfer capabilities, but if that is all that is required, then likely setting up some skanky serial communication program like White Knight in server mode and setting the modem to auto answer would be much better.... >The other option (this is good if you already have a network) is to attach >a network modem (Shiva has one, forget what it's called) and simply dial >up the network and use the system 7 mac's files like you where there. Yes, basically you are then attaching your remote Mac to the established network over a dial-up serial connection. Shiva has two network modems that I am aware of. One is 2,400 bps and the other is 9,600 bps. The slow one is too slow for any serious work and the fast one is too expensive for such a poor 9,600 bps modem. (I don't remember all of the features it didn't have -- I just remember dismissing it as an option pretty quickly....) There are other ways of doing this too. Liaison will do this. Set up a Liaison router on the network and configure a dial-up network (you need a modem too, of course). Again the faster the modems the better.... Oh, and I should point out that _everyone_ who has a Mac has a network! (You just have to make sure that you have used the installer to put the AppleShare, or network printer, or whatever, resources into your system....) Both a Shiva NetModem and a Liaison router will work on a "standalone" Mac.... >Another poster suggested Liasson. I don't understand this suggestion, I >was not aware that Liasson had dial-in capabilities. As far as I know, >Liasson is simply a router that runs in the background. Please correct >me on this if I'm wrong. You stand corrected. I posted another of my long-winded articles raving about Liaison the other day. See that for more info. Unfortunately I never saw it, and therefore didn't get a chance to save a copy, so I will likely have to re- type the thing some weeks from now when it comes up again.... +---- C o n r a d C . N o b i l i ----+ | | | Harvard University | Internet: conrad@harvarda.harvard.edu | | Office for Info. Tech. | conrad@popvax.harvard.edu | | Information Services | BITNET: CONRAD AT HARVARDA | | Technical & User Services | CONRAD AT HARVSPHB | | 1730 Cambridge Street | voice: (617) 495-8554 | +---- Cambridge, MA 02138 | fax: (617) 495-0715 ----+
George.Bray@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (George Bray) (06/13/91)
A while back MacWEEK rumoured Apple would support Appletalk over asynchronous links by the end of the year. It's only a rumour though... If you have a Webster MultiPort Ethernet/LocalTalk gateway you can use AsyncAppleTalk. There's also the Shiva NetBridge. I dont know if either of these are 7.0 ready yet. George Bray George Bray CSIRO Division of Information Technology > Phone: +61 2 887 9307 PO Box 1599 North Ryde 2113 AUSTRALIA > Fax: +61 2 888 7787 Internet: George.Bray@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU > CompuServe: 72711,253