r_ellison@hpfcdq.HP.COM (Bob Ellison) (08/20/90)
I just got my Mac SE/30's memory upgraded to 5 Meg, and I wanted to start using MultiFinder. MultiFinder comes up fine, but I can't open any desk accessories under it; I get a beep and that's it. Anyone have any ideas as to what's wrong? "About the Finder..." shows that there isn't much System memory allocation left; could this be the culprit? Any easy way to fix it? Bob Ellison, HP Fort Collins
clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) (08/21/90)
In article <5670004@hpfcdq.HP.COM> r_ellison@hpfcdq.HP.COM (Bob Ellison) writes: >I just got my Mac SE/30's memory upgraded to 5 Meg, and I wanted to start >using MultiFinder. MultiFinder comes up fine, but I can't open any desk >accessories under it; I get a beep and that's it. Anyone have any ideas as Usually this problem is easy to solve. Check your System Folder, and make sure that "DA Handler" and "Backgrounder" are in there. "DA Handler" acts as a sort of "application" taht contains all DAs under Multifinder. If you try to open a DA without it present, the Mac will just beep since it is unable to launch the DA "shell." <chaz> BTW, you will note that all the lines above are neatly right-aligned. Do I get some sort of prize for anal-retentiveness?? 8) 8) -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Does Captain Kirk Exist?" Chinese AI Experts Offer New Evidence." - spew clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu AOL:Crowbone
serafine@nprdc.navy.mil (Ron Serafine) (08/21/90)
In article <2107@ux.acs.umn.edu> clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) writes: >In article <5670004@hpfcdq.HP.COM> r_ellison@hpfcdq.HP.COM (Bob Ellison) writes: >>I just got my Mac SE/30's memory upgraded to 5 Meg, and I wanted to start >>using MultiFinder. MultiFinder comes up fine, but I can't open any desk >>accessories under it; I get a beep and that's it. Anyone have any ideas as > >Usually this problem is easy to solve. Check your System Folder, and make sure >that "DA Handler" and "Backgrounder" are in there. "DA Handler" acts as a sort >of "application" taht contains all DAs under Multifinder. If you try to open a >DA without it present, the Mac will just beep since it is unable to launch the >DA "shell." > ><chaz> > >clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu AOL:Crowbone I have received many helpful hints from this net which have made my job here easier. Now I would like to take this opportunity to return the favor: Using an SE/20 with 4meg. running under 6.0.2, and with backgrounder but not DA handler in the Systems folder, I too get the beep when attempting to select a DA under Multifinder. But I've found that if I hold down the option key just before & during the selection of the desired DA, it works fine, just like in the Finder. I hope that this will work as well for you, too. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ These are my views alone. I do not speak for the Navy or any other organization. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Regards, Ron. There's no ham in a hammer or a hamburger, no egg in eggplant.
r_ellison@hpfcdq.HP.COM (Bob Ellison) (08/21/90)
Thanks to all the people who responded! The problem turned out to be that I didn't have the DA Handler application in my system folder. (Silly me, it looked like it belonged in the Fonts/DAs folder...) A workaround suggested by many people was to hold down the Option key while selecting the desk accessory; this forces the accessory to open in the current application's memory, rather than using the DA Handler. Thanks again! Bob Ellison, HP Fort Collins
jazzman@claris.com (Sydney R. Polk) (08/22/90)
From article <9174@arctic.nprdc.arpa>, by serafine@nprdc.navy.mil (Ron Serafine): > In article <2107@ux.acs.umn.edu> clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) writes: >>In article <5670004@hpfcdq.HP.COM> r_ellison@hpfcdq.HP.COM (Bob Ellison) writes: >>>I just got my Mac SE/30's memory upgraded to 5 Meg, and I wanted to start >>>using MultiFinder. MultiFinder comes up fine, but I can't open any desk >>>accessories under it; I get a beep and that's it. Anyone have any ideas as >> >>Usually this problem is easy to solve. Check your System Folder, and make sure >>that "DA Handler" and "Backgrounder" are in there. "DA Handler" acts as a sort >>of "application" taht contains all DAs under Multifinder. If you try to open a >>DA without it present, the Mac will just beep since it is unable to launch the >>DA "shell." >> >><chaz> >> >>clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu AOL:Crowbone > > I have received many helpful hints from this net which have made my job here > easier. Now I would like to take this opportunity to return the favor: > > Using an SE/20 with 4meg. running under 6.0.2, and with backgrounder but not > DA handler in the Systems folder, I too get the beep when attempting to select > a DA under Multifinder. But I've found that if I hold down the option key just > before & during the selection of the desired DA, it works fine, just like in > the Finder. I hope that this will work as well for you, too. What this does is runs the desk accesories in the currently running application's heap. I personally don't like clogging my other appliations memory with DAs, so the disk space and memory for the DAHandler I consider worth it. -- Syd Polk | Wherever you go, there you are. jazzman@claris.com | Let the music be your light. GO 'STROS! | These opinions are mine. Any resemblence to other GO RICE! | opinions, real or fictitious, is purely coincidence.
clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) (08/23/90)
In article <9174@arctic.nprdc.arpa> serafine@nprdc.navy.mil (Ron Serafine) writes: >Using an SE/20 with 4meg. running under 6.0.2, and with backgrounder but not >DA handler in the Systems folder, I too get the beep when attempting to select >a DA under Multifinder. But I've found that if I hold down the option key just >before & during the selection of the desired DA, it works fine, just like in >the Finder. > Doind this loads the DA into the current application's memory space, bypassing the DA Handler stuff. This can be useful for spell-checkers and other things that you need to switch to and from frequently. One caveat is that you will probably want to increase the application's memory allotment if you do this frequently or with big DAs, as the DA will be taking up memory that would normally be available to the application, and this may be a problem. <chaz> -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Does Captain Kirk Exist?" Chinese AI Experts Offer New Evidence." - spew clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu AOL:Crowbone
blood@aludra.usc.edu (Brian Blood) (08/28/90)
From blood Mon Aug 27 11:47:08 1990 To: /home/chaph9/blood/.article Subject: MultiFinder and DAs When you are running multifinder and you try to open a DA and it beeps at you , there is a problem trying to open the DA Handler file. Either it is corrupted or it is missing. Try re-installing from your system disks. This should fix it. Brian Blood ---- JAMC ----- Just Another Mac 'Crazy"