rmf@bpdsun1.uucp (Rob Finley) (09/14/90)
Ok. Here is the scenario: I am sitting in front of a disassembled MacII with the Motorola 68581 memory management chip and I remove the fake mac chip expecting to be ready for the next release of Finder, et al. GAACK! Where did the rest of the ic pins go in the socket? They match the fake one but not the real one... B-) Aside from desoldering and replacing the WHOLE socket, how is Apple planning on getting the rest of the connections to the MMU? Offer a '030 retrofit? Swap motherboards? Instant old computer? I'm nu to this stuff, man... ----- "Lets go kick some Earthling butt!" -- Spaced Invaders quintro!bpdsun1!rmf@lll-winken.llnl.gov uunet!tiamat!quintro!bpdsun1!rmf
Greg@AppleLink.apple.com (Greg Marriott) (09/15/90)
In article <1990Sep14.005454.3917@bpdsun1.uucp> rmf@bpdsun1.uucp (Rob Finley) writes: > I am sitting in front of a disassembled MacII with the Motorola 68581 > memory management chip and I remove the fake mac chip expecting > to be ready for the next release of Finder, et al. > > GAACK! > Where did the rest of the ic pins go in the socket? They match the > fake one but not the real one... B-) That's pretty weird. I put a 68851 in my Mac II with no problem. Are you sure you have the orientation of the MMU correct? Greg Marriott Just Some Guy Apple Computer, Inc.
umcarls9@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Carlson) (09/15/90)
In article <1990Sep14.005454.3917@bpdsun1.uucp> rmf@bpdsun1.UUCP (Rob Finley) writes: >Ok. Here is the scenario: > >I am sitting in front of a disassembled MacII with the Motorola 68581 >memory management chip and I remove the fake mac chip expecting >to be ready for the next release of Finder, et al. > >GAACK! >Where did the rest of the ic pins go in the socket? They match the >fake one but not the real one... B-) > >Aside from desoldering and replacing the WHOLE socket, how is Apple >planning on getting the rest of the connections to the MMU? >Offer a '030 retrofit? Swap motherboards? Instant old computer? > Same situation when I bought my used Mac II. Apple offers a free board swap if you have that older Mac II board. <Mine was done less than 2 months ago so it is still valid!> I'm not sure what Apple repair guidline it fell under, but keep trying dealers until you find one who is willing to do some digging. Thats what I had to do. In fact, most of the service techs I talked didn't even know what a PMMU was. <where do they find these knowledgable board swappers anyway?> Oh, and don't let them tell you that you have to buy the PMMU and show them proof that you have it before they do the swap. It was nice buying a 3 year old Mac II on the used market and getting a new motherboard put in it. Charles
jac@tinton.ccur.com (Jim Clausing) (09/16/90)
In <10240@goofy.Apple.COM> Greg@AppleLink.apple.com (Greg Marriott) writes: <In article <1990Sep14.005454.3917@bpdsun1.uucp> rmf@bpdsun1.uucp (Rob <Finley) writes: <> I am sitting in front of a disassembled MacII with the Motorola 68581 <> memory management chip and I remove the fake mac chip expecting <> to be ready for the next release of Finder, et al. <> <> GAACK! <> Where did the rest of the ic pins go in the socket? They match the <> fake one but not the real one... B-) < <That's pretty weird. I put a 68851 in my Mac II with no problem. Are you <sure you have the orientation of the MMU correct? Same here, are you sure you pulled the right chip &/or have the orientation correct. It was no more than a 5 minute operation for me and I'm not particularly a hardware kind of guy. < <Greg Marriott -- Jim Clausing jac@tinton.ccur.com Parallel Processing Tools ph. (201)758-7693 Concurrent Computer Corp. Tinton Falls, NJ 07724