davea@hpfcmgw.HP.COM (Dave Arns) (10/25/90)
I am the one who wrote the naive and ignorant proposal on October 15th about the "new" binary distribution method; i.e., e-mail. There were several responses that pointed out to me what apparently is self-evident to everyone else: that there already *are* e-mail distribution methods for Mac binaries. My apologies for not knowing this before. One of the responders made the statement "...there are many such archives..." And here my ignorance shines again. What are these "many such archives"? What are their e-mail addresses? The only one that anyone explicitly stated how to access was LISTSERV at ricevm1.rice.edu. Please enlighten me as to the other Mac binary e-mail servers. Send responses to the address below. Thanks. Internet: davea@hpfcmgcf.hp.com Mail: Hewlett-Packard Company HP-Desk: %ux@hp4000 Attn: Dave Arns MS46 Telnet: 1-229-3882 3404 E. Harmony Road AT&T: 1-303-229-3882 Fort Collins, CO 80525-9599 USA
davea@hpfcmgw.HP.COM (Dave Arns) (10/30/90)
I have gotten two responses so far to my question in this basenote, but both recommended FTPing through the internet. However, because Hewlett-Packard is on a closed subnet, I am unable to FTP outside the company. That is why I'm asking about e-mail; FTP won't work. So far, no one has responded with any names of e-mail binaries servers (except the one I already had: ricevm1). Are there any out there, or was that person who said "there are many such servers" mistaken? Thanks, Dave Arns Internet: davea@hpfcmgcf.hp.com Mail: Hewlett-Packard Company HP-Desk: %ux@hp4000 Attn: Dave Arns MS46 Telnet: 1-229-3882 3404 E. Harmony Road AT&T: 1-303-229-3882 Fort Collins, CO 80525-9599 USA
vd09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vincent M. Del Vecchio) (10/31/90)
This may be a little bit roundabout, but you can do ftp through mail as well. I quote from Jon Granrose's FTP list: > For those unfortunates who do not have ftp but do have mail, I > have included the mail address of an archive that will retrieve > files for you through the mail. Send "help" in a message to the server > to find out the exact commands necessary. > The only mail-ftp archive I know of is: > bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu (most well-known) > Please don't ask me how to use it, as it can explain itself better than I > can. Please don't ask me how to use it either, as I have never tried (no need).
geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen) (11/03/90)
vd09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vincent M. Del Vecchio) writes: >This may be a little bit roundabout, but you can do ftp through mail as >well. I quote from Jon Granrose's FTP list: > >> For those unfortunates who do not have ftp but do have mail, I >> have included the mail address of an archive that will retrieve >> files for you through the mail. Send "help" in a message to the server >> to find out the exact commands necessary. > >> The only mail-ftp archive I know of is: > >> bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu (most well-known) > >> Please don't ask me how to use it, as it can explain itself better than I >> can. > >Please don't ask me how to use it either, as I have never tried (no need). Someone sent me info on this as a comment on my Frequently Asked Questions file recently posted to comp.sys.mac.announce. I'll add this info to the FAQ for the next go-around. In the meantime, here's the scoop (from recent discussions in comp.dcom.telecom): | ...................................................................... | FIRST -- Send a letter to: bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu (all but Bitnet) | bitftp@princeton.bitnet (Bitnet users) | | Your letter should consist of the single word HELP, in upper case, on | the first line at the far left margin. The subject does not matter. | You will receive by return mail a help file for how to use the | Archives Mail Server, with contact names at Princeton if you run into | trouble. | | SECOND -- When you have studied this document, you can then use the | facility to obtain the files you need. | | Basically, you send 'letters' to the address above, and your letters | will consist of ftp commands and appropriate arguments for each. Here | is an example: | | Write to: bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu (or bitftp@princeton.bitnet) | The subject does not matter. Issue the ftp commands at the left | margin, then a space, and the arguments: | | FTP lcs.mit.edu | USER anonymous name@site | CD telecom-archives | ASCII | GET index.to.archives (or, the name of the desired file) | GET the.next.file.you.want | BYE | | Somewhere between a few hours and a couple days later, you will | receive the requested files sent to you as a letter. Large files will | be broken into several smaller parts. You will also get a couple of | letters from the daemon running this program showing you how your | commands were interpreted in the event of an error. | | Patrick Townson (Moderator: comp.dcom.telecom) | ...................................................................... -- Geoff Allen \ Computers are useless. uunet!pmafire!geoff \ They can only give you answers. bigtex!pmafire!geoff \ -- Pablo Picasso