[comp.sys.mac.misc] Auto-save INIT?

ksbolduan@amherst.bitnet (10/23/90)

I just picked up the Saviour DA from the sumex archives. Supposedly it
automatically save whatever you're working on at regular intervals.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work with my SE/30 and System 6.0.4. It seems
incredibly archaic (circa 1986!) and maybe it doesn't like Multifinder or any
of the myriad of inits that I'm using.

Are there any other programs, preferably INITs or CDEVs which will do auto-save
after a given length of time or number of characters typed? It would seem to be
quite a simple INIT to write, and would help many who have recently switched
from IBM WordPerfect to the Mac where the feature is implemented.

E-mail repsonses to me and I'll summarize for the net.

Kevin Bolduan
KSBOLDUAN@AMHERST

tang@motcid.UUCP (Sam D. Tang) (10/25/90)

ksbolduan@amherst.bitnet writes:

:I just picked up the Saviour DA from the sumex archives. Supposedly it
:automatically save whatever you're working on at regular intervals.
:Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work with my SE/30 and System 6.0.4. It seems
:incredibly archaic (circa 1986!) and maybe it doesn't like Multifinder or any
:of the myriad of inits that I'm using.

:Are there any other programs, preferably INITs or CDEVs which will do auto-save
:after a given length of time or number of characters typed? It would seem to be
:quite a simple INIT to write, and would help many who have recently switched
:from IBM WordPerfect to the Mac where the feature is implemented.

:E-mail repsonses to me and I'll summarize for the net.

:Kevin Bolduan
:KSBOLDUAN@AMHERST

There are some problems with this approach BUT you can always put a cmd-S 
into a QuicKeys' "periodic" QuickTimer to save every so often for most 
applications.  The CDEV allows for startup, recurring (at intervals starting 
at 1 minute), and shutdown macros.  Other macros could toggle this periodic 
saving on and off by pulling up the control panel and clicking a few times.  

Also, not only IBM software has auto-save capabilities.  I don't see it 
that often but I have seen it.  One problem is that the user is probably the 
best judge when it comes to deciding when/how often to checkpoint his work.  
It usually takes only one or two bad experiences to become a conscientious 
backer-upper.  After that stage it's a matter of hitting two keys at the right
time.  Simple.  You also don't have to sit through a useless save, or, more 
importantly, a save that permatizes a very bad change you didn't get a chance 
to undo.

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boris@world.std.com (Boris Levitin) (11/04/90)

tang@motcid.UUCP (Sam D. Tang) writes:

>ksbolduan@amherst.bitnet writes:

>:I just picked up the Saviour DA from the sumex archives. Supposedly it
>:automatically save whatever you're working on at regular intervals.
>:Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work with my SE/30 and System 6.0.4. It seems
>:incredibly archaic (circa 1986!) and maybe it doesn't like Multifinder or any
>:of the myriad of inits that I'm using.

>:Are there any other programs, preferably INITs or CDEVs which will do auto-save
>:after a given length of time or number of characters typed? It would seem to be
>:quite a simple INIT to write, and would help many who have recently switched
>:from IBM WordPerfect to the Mac where the feature is implemented.

>:E-mail repsonses to me and I'll summarize for the net.

>:Kevin Bolduan
>:KSBOLDUAN@AMHERST

>There are some problems with this approach BUT you can always put a cmd-S 
>into a QuicKeys' "periodic" QuickTimer to save every so often for most 
>applications.  The CDEV allows for startup, recurring (at intervals starting 
>at 1 minute), and shutdown macros.  Other macros could toggle this periodic 
>saving on and off by pulling up the control panel and clicking a few times.  

>Also, not only IBM software has auto-save capabilities.  I don't see it 
>that often but I have seen it.  One problem is that the user is probably the 
>best judge when it comes to deciding when/how often to checkpoint his work.  
>It usually takes only one or two bad experiences to become a conscientious 
>backer-upper.  After that stage it's a matter of hitting two keys at the right
>time.  Simple.  You also don't have to sit through a useless save, or, more 
>importantly, a save that permatizes a very bad change you didn't get a chance 
>to undo.

There's a supported commercial DA called Shadow.  When first released,
it supposedly had a few incompatibilities... check for its current status.
At first I was inclined to use autosavers on the Mac, because that was
one feature of the otherwise horrid IBM CMS mainframe operating system I 
valued, but I don't use it nowadays because on the average SCSI HD the save
takes too long with many documents (I don't want it kicking in while I'm
writing down a thought which might flee while a two-minute save is executing)
and because on a Mac the autosave alters the original file, not a temporary
one like under CMS or Unix, and I don't sometimes want to keep the changes I 
made.

Boris Levitin
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