mfi@serc.cis.ufl.edu (Mark Interrante) (10/24/90)
I recently downloaded a game called solarian from sumex at stanford and instead of being in stuffit format it is in .cpt, is this a new archiving program? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Interrante Software Engineering Research Center mfi@beach.cis.ufl.edu CIS Department, University of Florida 32611 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from a west Texas farmer "status quo is Latin for the mess we're in."
rterry@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Ray Terry) (10/24/90)
> I recently downloaded a game called solarian from sumex at stanford > and instead of being in stuffit format it is in .cpt, is this a new > archiving program? ".cpt" means that it is a Compactor archive. Compactor is the new(er) shareware compression utility that seems to be taking over from StuffIt. It does a better job of compression than StuffIt and/or StuffIt Deluxe. Ray
vd09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vincent M. Del Vecchio) (10/27/90)
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.mac.misc: 24-Oct-90 Re: .cpt format? Ray > Terry@hpcuhc.cup.hp. (385) > ".cpt" means that it is a Compactor archive. Compactor is the new(er) > shareware compression utility that seems to be taking over from StuffIt. > It does a better job of compression than StuffIt and/or StuffIt Deluxe. Be careful what you say here. I think that the most you can say is that, at maximum compression settings, Compactor usually does a comparable job to Stuffit Deluxe, and that its Compression/Time is (always?) higher than Stuffit Deluxe (on Best level). In other words, Compactor is fast and compresses comparably to Stuffit Deluxe-Best. This means that sometimes Compactor compresses better and sometimes Stuffit compresses better. Compactor is faster (I hesitate to say always, but I think it may be true for sufficiently large files, say > 10K, and, of course, all other parameters equal.) There are times (or files, actually--frequently sounds and pictures) when Stuffit (Classic) will do a better compression job than Compactor. So be careful what you say. +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Vincent Del Vecchio \ #include <stddisclaimer.h> | | Box 4834 \ #include <stdquote.h> | | 5125 Margaret Morrison St.\ BITNET: vd09+%andrew@cmuccvma.bitnet | | Pittsburgh, PA 15213 \ UUCP: harvard!andrew.cmu.edu!vd09 | | (412) 268-4441 \ Internet: vd09+@andrew.cmu.edu | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) (10/27/90)
In article <Ub_8Fz600awXQkzFhb@andrew.cmu.edu> vd09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vincent M. Del Vecchio) writes: >> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.mac.misc: 24-Oct-90 Re: .cpt format? Ray >> Terry@hpcuhc.cup.hp. (385) > >> ".cpt" means that it is a Compactor archive. Compactor is the new(er) >> shareware compression utility that seems to be taking over from StuffIt. >> It does a better job of compression than StuffIt and/or StuffIt Deluxe. > >Be careful what you say here. I think that the most you can say is >that, at maximum compression settings, Compactor usually does a >comparable job to Stuffit Deluxe, and that its Compression/Time is >(always?) higher than Stuffit Deluxe (on Best level). > >In other words, Compactor is fast and compresses comparably to Stuffit >Deluxe-Best. This means that sometimes Compactor compresses better and >sometimes Stuffit compresses better. Compactor is faster (I hesitate to >say always, but I think it may be true for sufficiently large files, say >> 10K, and, of course, all other parameters equal.) There are times (or >files, actually--frequently sounds and pictures) when Stuffit (Classic) >will do a better compression job than Compactor. So be careful what you >say. I tried Compactor on a bunch of files a few weeks ago to test it out against Stuffit 1.5.1. Compactor ALWAYS produced a smaller archive. Also, Compactor lets you create self-extracting archives and Stuffit does not. I ended up staying with Stuffit to maintain compatibility with others in the office. Chris ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |D{r det finns en |l, finns cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |det en plan! (c)All rights reserved. | Send flames to /dev/null | ------------------------------+---------------------------
tempest@walleye.uucp (Kenneth K.F. Lui) (10/27/90)
In article <1990Oct26.194712.8915@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >against Stuffit 1.5.1. Compactor ALWAYS produced a smaller archive. This was what I thought before I started stuffing things that contained a lot of sounds. Stuff Solarian and see what happens. The Deluxe archive is smaller than Compactor. I forget what the actual Compactor size is, but the Deluxe size is 498K. This is without any optimizers--straight StuffIt Deluxe using Better. I would say that "for the most part," Compactor is more efficient than StuffIt Deluxe 1.01. Ken ______________________________________________________________________________ tempest@ecst.csuchico.edu, tempest@walleye.ecst.csuchico.edu,|Kenneth K.F. Lui| tempest@sutro.sfsu.edu, tempest@wet.UUCP |________________|
rterry@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Ray Terry) (10/27/90)
>> ".cpt" means that it is a Compactor archive. Compactor is the new(er) >> shareware compression utility that seems to be taking over from StuffIt. >> It does a better job of compression than StuffIt and/or StuffIt Deluxe. > >Be careful what you say here. I think that the most you can say is >that, at maximum compression settings, Compactor usually does a >comparable job to Stuffit Deluxe, and that its Compression/Time is >(always?) higher than Stuffit Deluxe (on Best level). Compactor doesn't have a maximum compression setting... You only get the default LZ compression. Compression/decompression time is faster, usually tighter, and the app is much more MultiFinder friendly than is either StuffIt or StuffIt Deluxe. My statement stands, but I should have added IMHO. I am sorry about leaving that off... Ray =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ray Terry GEnie = R.Terry CIS = 71150,735 HPDesk = /HP4700 Domain = rterry@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com SysOp = MacScience BBS 408-866-4933 Packet = N6PHJ @ N6IIU.#NOCAL.CA.USA UUCP = ...!sun!hpda!hpcupt1!rterry UFGate = ...!apple!camphq!36!ray.terry =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) (10/30/90)
In article <1990Oct26.194712.8915@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >Also, Compactor lets you create self-extracting archives and Stuffit >does not. Aw contrare mon frare... ftp to sumex [36.44.0.6] and pick up: /info-mac/util/stuffit-15-utilities.hqx one of the several utilities here will allow you to convert a standard Stuffit 1.5.1 archive into a self-extracting archive. I haven't tried it on a Classic archive as created by Stuffit Deluxe. chaz -- Prince and Linda Ronstadt Secretly Wed in San Rafael, It's Official. -- National Enquirer Photo Exclusive. clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu AOL:Crowbone
cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) (10/31/90)
In article <2594@ux.acs.umn.edu> clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) writes: >In article <1990Oct26.194712.8915@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >>Also, Compactor lets you create self-extracting archives and Stuffit >>does not. > >Aw contrare mon frare... > >ftp to sumex [36.44.0.6] and pick up: >/info-mac/util/stuffit-15-utilities.hqx > >one of the several utilities here will allow you to convert a standard Stuffit >1.5.1 archive into a self-extracting archive. > >I haven't tried it on a Classic archive as created by Stuffit Deluxe. I stand corrected. sorry... > >chaz Cheers, Chris ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |D{r det finns en |l, finns cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |det en plan! (c)All rights reserved. | Send flames to /dev/null | ------------------------------+---------------------------
rterry@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Ray Terry) (10/31/90)
>>Also, Compactor lets you create self-extracting archives and Stuffit >>does not. > >Aw contrare mon frare... > >ftp to sumex [36.44.0.6] and pick up: >/info-mac/util/stuffit-15-utilities.hqx > >one of the several utilities here will allow you to convert a standard Stuffit >1.5.1 archive into a self-extracting archive. > >I haven't tried it on a Classic archive as created by Stuffit Deluxe. He most likely (?) was referring to the fact that with Compactor you can create a self-extracting archive (sea) via the compression app itself (simply check a box). With StuffIt you have to use (and have) another utility to turn the archive into a sea. Compactor's approach is superior. Ray
carsup@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Fisher Library support) (11/06/90)
In article <1990Oct30.165720.24384@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >In article <2594@ux.acs.umn.edu> clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) writes: >>In article <1990Oct26.194712.8915@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >>>Also, Compactor lets you create self-extracting archives and Stuffit >>>does not. >> >>Aw contrare mon frare... >> >>ftp to sumex [36.44.0.6] and pick up: >>/info-mac/util/stuffit-15-utilities.hqx >> >>one of the several utilities here will allow you to convert a standard Stuffit >>1.5.1 archive into a self-extracting archive. >> >>I haven't tried it on a Classic archive as created by Stuffit Deluxe. > >I stand corrected. sorry... > >> >>chaz > >Cheers, > >Chris REJOICE!! I've been using Stuffit Classic 1.6 and it is shareware and does auto-extracting archives within the one program. It comes as a self-extracting archive for distribution. Just remember saving a copy of that first as it saves files to the System Folder as well. I guess once you overlook the fact that it takes quite a few files to perform, it works very well and certainly looks the part. Just when I thought I was going to send my registration fee to Compactor comes StuffIt Classic 1.6... To be honest, I'll always choose to say I stuffed the files than compacted them even when I compacted them, so to speak. Stuff it somehow brings a smile to my face except when I really do. May be there will be a shareware for really stuffing things up in the works? ScrewIt Classic...? :) **** My employers ignore me, I'm on my own when I speak out in public **** Norton Chia || My address is carsup@extro.ucc.su.oz.au Micro Support || "When are they going to put in built-in spell-chequers" *******************************************************************************