brandonl@gold.gvg.tek.com (Brandon Lovested) (11/16/90)
I installed System 6.0.7 a couple of days ago, and have noticed that when I eject a disk with Command-E, the disk does eject, but the disk icon remains, though unhilited. Periodically, the my Mac asks for that old disk back before it will perform any other task...any totally *unrelated* task (like calling up a DA). What gives? ============================================================================== BRANDON G. LOVESTED ::::=:::==::===:==== FOR EVERY VISION, Software Design Engineer ::::=:::==::===:==== THERE IS AN Grass Valley Group ::::=:::==::===:==== EQUAL AND OPPOSITE brandonl@gold.gvg.tek.com ::::=:::==::===:==== REVISION. ==============================================================================
draphsor@elaine0.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson) (11/16/90)
brandonl@gold.gvg.tek.com (Brandon Lovested) writes: >I installed System 6.0.7 a couple of days ago, and have >noticed that when I eject a disk with Command-E, the disk >does eject, but the disk icon remains, though unhilited. >Periodically, the my Mac asks for that old disk back before >it will perform any other task...any totally *unrelated* >task (like calling up a DA). >What gives? This is not an idiosyncracy of 6.0.7. As far as I know, this is a standard 'feature' of all versions of the Mac OS. It allows you to copy files from one disk to another if you have only one disk drive (as the original macs did). Unfortunately, eventually the Mac OS decides that it wants to write something to the disk - usually it wants to update the desktop file. It will therefore ask you to insert the disk, which can be quite annoying - especially if the disk is no longer available. (The only way out I've found here is rebooting - anyone have any tricks to convince the OS to leave well enough alone?) The way to avoid this is to drag the disk to the trash. This not only ejects the disk, it dismounts it. The OS is forced to do all its changes to the disk before it ejects it. The icon then disappears (unless the disk is the startup volume, which can't be dismounted.) Hope this helps, and hasn't confused things any further... -- Draphsor vo'drun-Aelf draphsor@portia.stanford.edu
c60a-cz@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Donald Burr) (11/16/90)
In article <draphsor.658724837@elaine0.stanford.edu> draphsor@elaine0.stanford.edu writes: >The way to avoid this is to drag the disk to the trash. This not only >ejects the disk, it dismounts it. The OS is forced to do all its >changes to the disk before it ejects it. The icon then disappears >(unless the disk is the startup volume, which can't be dismounted.) Or even better yet, select the disk by clicking on it, and hit <Command> <Option> <double E> (hit E twice). This will both eject the disk and also dismount it. ______________________________________________________________________________ Donald Burr, Univ of California, Berkeley | "I have a seperate mail-address INTERNET: c60a-cz@danube.Berkeley.edu | for flames and other such nega- or: 72540.3071@compuserve.COM | tive msgs; it's called /dev/null."
jack@Taffy.rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth) (11/16/90)
In article <1678@gold.gvg.tek.com> brandonl@gold.gvg.tek.com (Brandon Lovested) writes: > >I installed System 6.0.7 a couple of days ago, and have >noticed that when I eject a disk with Command-E, the disk >does eject, but the disk icon remains, though unhilited. > >Periodically, the my Mac asks for that old disk back before >it will perform any other task...any totally *unrelated* >task (like calling up a DA). > >What gives? > > > >============================================================================== >BRANDON G. LOVESTED ::::=:::==::===:==== FOR EVERY VISION, >Software Design Engineer ::::=:::==::===:==== THERE IS AN >Grass Valley Group ::::=:::==::===:==== EQUAL AND OPPOSITE >brandonl@gold.gvg.tek.com ::::=:::==::===:==== REVISION. >============================================================================== Nothing, that's how Command-E works!! Jack
brian@fog.ann-arbor.mi.us (Brian S. Schang) (11/16/90)
From article <draphsor.658724837@elaine0.stanford.edu>, by draphsor@elaine0.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson): > This is not an idiosyncracy of 6.0.7. As far as I know, this is a > standard 'feature' of all versions of the Mac OS. It allows you to copy > files from one disk to another if you have only one disk drive (as the > original macs did). Unfortunately, eventually the Mac OS decides that > it wants to write something to the disk - usually it wants to update the > desktop file. It will therefore ask you to insert the disk, which can > be quite annoying - especially if the disk is no longer available. (The > only way out I've found here is rebooting - anyone have any tricks to > convince the OS to leave well enough alone?) If you type a Command-. (command-period) repeatedly, the alert will finally go away and allow one to procede. I'm not sure if this has any side effects, but I have never had problems, and I can't picture any side effects unless you *wanted* the Desktop to be updated or something like that. -- Brian S. Schang N8FOG brian@fog.ann-arbor.mi.us 46131 Academy Drive schang@caen.engin.umich.edu Plymouth, MI 48170-3519
russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) (11/16/90)
In article <1678@gold.gvg.tek.com> brandonl@gold.gvg.tek.com (Brandon Lovested) writes: > >I installed System 6.0.7 a couple of days ago, and have >noticed that when I eject a disk with Command-E, the disk >does eject, but the disk icon remains, though unhilited. > >Periodically, the my Mac asks for that old disk back before >it will perform any other task...any totally *unrelated* >task (like calling up a DA). > >What gives? This is standard behavior-- since Finder 1.1g. The Finder is trying to keep the desktop file consistent, and does so every time you do a context switch (i.e. launch application, call up DA) -- Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu .sig under construction, like the rest of this campus.
ralphm@portia.Stanford.EDU (Ralph Melton) (11/16/90)
In article <draphsor.658724837@elaine0.stanford.edu> draphsor@elaine0.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson) writes: >Unfortunately, eventually the Mac OS decides that >it wants to write something to the disk - usually it wants to update the >desktop file. It will therefore ask you to insert the disk, which can >be quite annoying - especially if the disk is no longer available. (The >only way out I've found here is rebooting - anyone have any tricks to >convince the OS to leave well enough alone?) >Draphsor vo'drun-Aelf draphsor@portia.stanford.edu Command-period. I rarely have luck with pressing it once, but two or three presses will almost always make the "please insert disk Missing" go away. Ralph -- Ralph Melton ralphm@portia.stanford.edu
khcg0492@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth Holden Chang) (11/16/90)
Brandon Lovested asked about the vagaries of command-E (why the disk icon remains and why the computer asks for the disk to be reinserted). In article <draphsor.658724837@elaine0.stanford.edu> draphsor@elaine0.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson) replied: >This is not an idiosyncracy of 6.0.7. As far as I know, this is a >standard 'feature' of all versions of the Mac OS. It allows you to copy >files from one disk to another if you have only one disk drive (as the >original macs did). Unfortunately, eventually the Mac OS decides that >it wants to write something to the disk - usually it wants to update the >desktop file. It will therefore ask you to insert the disk, which can >be quite annoying - especially if the disk is no longer available. (The >only way out I've found here is rebooting - anyone have any tricks to >convince the OS to leave well enough alone?) Command-period sometimes works. Sometimes you have to hit command-period several times. Sometimes the computer is really stubborn and you have to reboot. -- ***************************************************************************** Kenneth Chang * khcg0492@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Center for Complex Systems Research * or University of Illinois * kc@complex.ccsr.uiuc.edu *****************************************************************************
kenney@hsi86.hsi.com (Brian Kenney) (11/16/90)
In article <draphsor.658724837@elaine0.stanford.edu> draphsor@elaine0.stanford.edu (Matt Rollefson) writes: >desktop file. It will therefore ask you to insert the disk, which can >be quite annoying - especially if the disk is no longer available. (The >only way out I've found here is rebooting - anyone have any tricks to >convince the OS to leave well enough alone?) Yes. When the dialog box prompts you to insert the old disk, enter "<open-apple> ." (that's open-apple period). You may have to do this twice, but it should make that dialog box go away. --bri -- Brian Kenney kenney@hsi.com 3M Health Information Systems Wallingford, CT
jo1m+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeffrey T. Oplinger) (11/17/90)
>I installed System 6.0.7 a couple of days ago, and have >noticed that when I eject a disk with Command-E, the disk >does eject, but the disk icon remains, though unhilited. > >Periodically, the my Mac asks for that old disk back before >it will perform any other task...any totally *unrelated* >task (like calling up a DA). > >What gives? This happens with all the mac systems. You can attempt to dismiss a "switch disk" dialog/alert by pressing coomand - period. If the disk is badly wanted (i.e. contains system files it is using or applications you're running), the dialog will reappear. Repeated dismissals of a dialog that keeps popping up can then cause the Mac to think it's having I/O problems and possibly crash. If the disk contains nothing the mac needs badly, usually one or two tries does the trick, and the system will "unmount" the disk without needing to see it again. I believe that if you hold down option while pressing command - e to eject a disk, it will unmount the volume (the icon will disappear) in addition to just plain ejecting it. This technique seems safest. I don't think it works for the fkeys (cmd shift 1 & 2) though... -- Jeff