gandhi@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Prashant Gandhi) (12/27/90)
I am looking for a cheap but dependable postscript printer. The three printer that I am considering are NEC Silenwriter II 90, Apple Personal Laserwriter NT and QMS PS 410. I am currently leaning toward the NEC II 90 since it is a 6 Page/Min printer and has a multi-purpose 250-sheet tray (it can fit letter, legal and envelops). Also it has the lowest street prince of $1600. The QMS PS410 on the other hand is a 4 Page/Min printer with 50-sheet tray and street price of $1999. The dependable Apple printer costs around $2250 with the educational discounts. I would like to make sure that the printer I purchase has no inherent problems. Has anyone had any of the above three printers? How do you feel about them? Any help will be much appreciated. Please email your response. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prashant Gandhi | gandhi@pender.ee.upenn.edu Department of Electrical Engineering |---------------------------------- Villanova University | Celebrate your local Villanova, PA 19085 | Computer Appreciation Day ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Prashant.Gandhi@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Prashant Gandhi) (12/27/90)
Reply-To: gandhi@pender.ee.upenn.edu
I am looking for a cheap but dependable postscript printer. The three
printer that I am considering are NEC Silenwriter II 90, Apple Personal
Laserwriter NT and QMS PS 410. I am currently leaning toward the NEC II 90
since it is a 6 Page/Min printer and has a multi-purpose 250-sheet tray
(it can fit letter, legal and envelops). Also it has the lowest street
prince of $1600. The QMS PS410 on the other hand is a 4 Page/Min printer
with 50-sheet tray and street price of $1999. The dependable Apple
printer costs around $2250 with the educational discounts.
I would like to make sure that the printer I purchase has no inherent problems.
Has anyone had any of the above three printers? How do you feel about
them?
Any help will be much appreciated. Please email your response.
Thanks.
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Villanova, PA 19085 I Computer Appreciation Day
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Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a
PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the
printing!
Dave
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INET: pip@pro-freedom.cts.comd88-jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) (12/28/90)
In article <> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes: >Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a >PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the >printing! This is, of course, false as water (uh... doesn't translate into English, does it ?) I use a Personal LaserWriter IInt for my work, and I assure you; the output I get from FreeHand files and PageMaker documents and... are very much PostScript-like. Besides, it says "PostScript" right on the startup page, if you've bothered to look. The Personal LaserWriter IIsc, though, is not PostScript. But it's much cheaper, on the other hand :-) H+ -- Jon W{tte, Stockholm, Sweden, h+@nada.kth.se
lriggins@blackbird.afit.af.mil (L. Maurice Riggins) (12/28/90)
In article <1990Dec28.105032.4577@clark.edu> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes: |In-Reply-To: message from gandhi@pender.ee.upenn.edu | |Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a |PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the |printing! | |Dave Get your facts straight, Dave. The Personal LaserWriter II NT IS a Postscript printer and it runs off AppleTalk just like previous LaserWriters. It's the Personal LaserWriter II SC (the one that connects to the SCSI port) that uses QuickDraw. -- Maurice INTERNET: lriggins@blackbird.afit.af.mil (129.92.1.2) Opinions expressed here do not reflect those of my employer nor constitute an official position of any U.S.Government agency.
starta@tosh.UUCP (John Starta) (12/29/90)
pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes: > Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a > PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the > printing! Wrong. The Personal LaserWriter NT is a networkable Postscript printer based on Canon's LBP-LX print engine, which has a duty cycle rated at 150,000 pages, or half that of the LaserWriter IIs but 50 percent more than the original LaserWriter. The printer uses $99 toner cartridges that print about 3,500 pages each. The Personal LaserWriter NT includes 2 Mbytes of RAM, which can be upgraded to 8 Mbytes, and 1.25 Mbytes of ROM loaded with Version 51.8 of Postscript as well as a subset of the code for the Adobe Type Manager font scaler. It ships with 35 Adobe typefaces and two IBM PC graphics Extended Character Set fonts. For use in mixed-platform environments, it offers Hewlett-Packard LaserJet Plus (PCL 3) and Diablo 630 emulations and an RS-232C/422C serial interface in addition to its LocalTalk port. John
philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) (12/29/90)
In article <1990Dec28.105032.4577@clark.edu>, pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes: |> Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a |> PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the |> printing! Wrong on both counts. Apple Personal LaserWriter IISC (not the NT - maybe it's Apple's fault for using such similar names) is the QuickDraw printer, and QuickDraw is _not_ a PostScript clone. The Personal IINT is a low-end PostScript printer. -- Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
David.Pipgras@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Pipgras) (12/29/90)
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In-Reply-To: message from gandhi@pender.ee.upenn.edu
Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a
PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the
printing!
Dave
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Reply-To: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se In article <> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes: >Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a >PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the >printing! This is, of course, false as water (uh... doesn't translate into English, does it ?) I use a Personal LaserWriter IInt for my work, and I assure you; the output I get from FreeHand files and PageMaker documents and... are very much PostScript-like. Besides, it says "PostScript" right on the startup page, if you've bothered to look. The Personal LaserWriter IIsc, though, is not PostScript. But it's much cheaper, on the other hand :-) H+ -- Jon W{tte, Stockholm, Sweden, h+@nada.kth.se + Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden -- Jon W{tte - via FidoNet node 1:105/14 UUCP: ...!{uunet!glacier, ..reed.bitnet}!busker!226!20!Jon.W{tte INTERNET: Jon.W{tte@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
L..Maurice.Riggins@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (L. Maurice Riggins) (12/29/90)
Reply-To: lriggins@blackbird.afit.af.mil In article <1990Dec28.105032.4577@clark.edu> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes: IIn-Reply-To: message from gandhi@pender.ee.upenn.edu I IWell, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a IPostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the Iprinting! I IDave Get your facts straight, Dave. The Personal LaserWriter II NT IS a Postscript printer and it runs off AppleTalk just like previous LaserWriters. It's the Personal LaserWriter II SC (the one that connects to the SCSI port) that uses QuickDraw. -- Maurice INTERNET: lriggins@blackbird.afit.af.mil (129.92.1.2) Opinions expressed here do not reflect those of my employer nor constitute an official position of any U.S.Government agency. + Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology; WPAFB, OH -- L. Maurice Riggins - via FidoNet node 1:105/14 UUCP: ...!{uunet!glacier, ..reed.bitnet}!busker!226!20!L..Maurice.Riggins INTERNET: L..Maurice.Riggins@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
james968@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (James Hammett) (12/29/90)
The Personal LaserWriter NT IS a PostScript printer! The Personal LaserWriter SC is a quickdraw printer. QuickDraw is NOT a PostScript clone, QuickDraw is what the Mac uses to create its screen images. It doesn't support anything as complecated as PS. Right now there are several printers on the market that use QuickDraw. These printers have limitations. You can't rotate or scale fonts as in PS. Fewer fonts are usually available for these printers. (If you use a 300 dpi QuickDraw printer you need very large font sizes or something like ATM, to get good fonts) I'm sorry, but I've seen the message about the NT a few times already, and I felt that someone really needed to comment on it. james968@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
John.Starta@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Starta) (12/29/90)
From: starta@tosh.UUCP Reply-To: tosh!starta@asuvax.eas.asu.edu pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes: > Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is *NOT* a > PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript clone) to do the > printing! Wrong. The Personal LaserWriter NT is a networkable Postscript printer based on Canon's LBP-LX print engine, which has a duty cycle rated at 150,000 pages, or half that of the LaserWriter IIs but 50 percent more than the original LaserWriter. The printer uses $99 toner cartridges that print about 3,500 pages each. The Personal LaserWriter NT includes 2 Mbytes of RAM, which can be upgraded to 8 Mbytes, and 1.25 Mbytes of ROM loaded with Version 51.8 of Postscript as well as a subset of the code for the Adobe Type Manager font scaler. It ships with 35 Adobe typefaces and two IBM PC graphics Extended Character Set fonts. For use in mixed-platform environments, it offers Hewlett-Packard LaserJet Plus (PCL 3) and Diablo 630 emulations and an RS-232C/422C serial interface in addition to its LocalTalk port. John + Organization: Before Computing Inc., Phoenix, AZ -- John Starta - via FidoNet node 1:105/14 UUCP: ...!{uunet!glacier, ..reed.bitnet}!busker!226!20!John.Starta INTERNET: John.Starta@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Adam.Frix@p2.f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) (12/31/90)
pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes in a message on 28 Dec 90: DP> In-Reply-To: message from gandhi@pender.ee.upenn.edu DP> DP> Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is DP> *NOT* a PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript DP> clone) to do the printing! bzzzzzzzzt. Wrong answer. Just like the LaserWriter IINT, which is PostScript and networkable, the Personal LaserWriter NT is PostScript and networkable. It's the Personal Laserwriter SC which, like the discontinued LaserWriter IISC, uses the SCSI port and is not networkable--and is NOT PostScript, but rather QuickDraw. --Adam-- -- Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!200.2!Adam.Frix INET: Adam.Frix@p2.f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Adam.Frix@p2.f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) (12/31/90)
pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes in a message on 28 Dec 90:
DP> In-Reply-To: message from gandhi@pender.ee.upenn.edu
DP>
DP> Well, some info on the Apple Personal LaserWriter IInt - It is
DP> *NOT* a PostScript printer! It uses Apple's QuickDraw (a postscript
DP> clone) to do the printing!
bzzzzzzzzt. Wrong answer. Just like the LaserWriter IINT, which is PostScript
and networkable, the Personal LaserWriter NT is PostScript and networkable.
It's the Personal Laserwriter SC which, like the discontinued LaserWriter IISC,
uses the SCSI port and is not networkable--and is NOT PostScript, but rather
QuickDraw.
--Adam--
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Ok, ya all, I will post that I am sorry, I got the LaserWriter Nt and SC mixed
up. I apologize. Easy Error..... Flames to the bit bucket....et all
Dave
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