jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman) (03/06/91)
Have you ever wondered why there are always flame wars in the comp.sys.mac groups? Is it because the users of the other machines "float" above these newsgroups looking for a "kill?" I could come up with some _really_ stupid and childish reasons that would add a good amount of fuel to the flame wars, but I just want my newsgroups to be a nice place. (That line sounds like a line in _Heathers!_, notice?) I think it is about high time that we DO form a new newsgroup where all the mac lovers and amiga users and so on could flame away and tear each other up into little tiny pieces. It would be fun to read. BUT I DON'T WANT TO READ IT IN COMP.SYS.MAC.GAMES OR ANY OTHER MAC GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since this is a Mac group, I will not appeal to the "others." Let's just ignore them for the minute. I think that every person who posts in these groups should first think about what they are posting. If the posting has any other computer name used in it that warrants a comparison which will result in a flame war, the writer should not post it, or should post it in a neutral area, say Switzerland. (Sorry, can't make this post seem to stern!) The latest mac vs amiga war was because of a phrase, not really even a question like "Gee, there are so many games for the amiga and few for the mac.." This post was not needed. It smelled of napalm. Another post that was obvivously flamable was the post titled "Why is the mac better than messy-dos" It's obvivous the poster wanted to start a fight. I am sure that all other computer users have their newsreaders set to scan all our posting titles for the name of their computer, so that they can be sure that everyone hears their side. I'm not saying this is wrong, because often times people say dumb things that are _totally_ false and need to be corrected. Hell, in my early NewsNet days, my motto was "type first, think later." BEFORE YOU POST, THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR MESSAGE CAN TURN INTO. #setenv HUMOUR ON On a side note, maybe us Mac users should for msome vigilante groups and go into the amiga, next, and ibm groups and raise some cain, eh? Just kidding... :) :) :). I'm a programmer, not a fighter, and besides, my asbestos suit got lost at the cleaners. :) #setenv HUMOUR OFF | John Taggart Gorman Jr. | "I'm a no rust build up man myself." | | -Christian Slater | jtgorman@caslon.cs.arizona.edu | in 'Heathers'
geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen) (03/09/91)
jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman) writes: > I think it is about high time that we DO form a new newsgroup where all >the mac lovers and amiga users and so on could flame away and tear each other >up into little tiny pieces. It would be fun to read. BUT I DON'T WANT TO >READ IT IN COMP.SYS.MAC.GAMES OR ANY OTHER MAC GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!! That group exists. It's called alt.religion.computers. I know that all sites don't get alt, but that's a different story. -- Geoff Allen \ What's the difference between a garden slug and uunet!pmafire!geoff \ a two-inch long, living booger? geoff@pmafire.inel.gov \ -- Calvin
carl@udwarf.tymnet.com (Carl Baltrunas & Cherie Marinelli 1.0.4a) (03/10/91)
In article <1056@caslon.cs.arizona.edu>, jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman) writes: > > Have you ever wondered why there are always flame wars in the comp.sys.mac > groups? Is it because the users of the other machines "float" above these > newsgroups looking for a "kill?" I just posted this PS in another group as an aside to the general topic... we all dislike having to WADE through tons and tons of flame war messages. Hey,... why do we see them? Because someone flames someone or asks a question and then some other person responds to the message with a FOLLOWUP rather than a REPLY. Ok, so some news readers (the software not the humans) can't reply and can only send a followup... is that true? If not, then there is NO, (REPEAT NO) excuse for not using the REPLY.. to reply privately with E-Mail to the person. Like *MOST* of you, I subscribe to these groups to read about MAC software and the experience of other MAC users. If I want to read about the Amiga, the IBM, the Next, the Adam, the CDC Cyber, etc... I'll subscribe to them. So, here is the message of wisdom I added to my other post. If we follow this rule, we'll save the net and our fingers a lot of bandwidth... PS. One of the best ways to avoid wasting bandwidth on "NOISE" is to tolerate the infractions of others and if you feel you MUST say something, say it in private E-Mail to the offending person. *NEVER* Flame anyone publically. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time. If you disagree with a person speak to that person and not the entire newsgroup (newsgroups if cross-posted) or mailing list. If you ignore the flames... they die out, just like real fires. A fire needs 3 things: Fuel, Air and Heat. Hot air has 2 of these components already! -Carl Carl A Baltrunas - Catalyst Art Cherie Marinelli - Bijoux Internet: {carl or cherie}@udwarf.tymnet.com {carl or cherie}%udwarf@tardis.tymnet.com UUCP:{sumex,apple}!oliveb!tymix!tardis!udwarf!{carl or cherie}