[comp.sys.mac.misc] Mac LC and SI and DTP

jefft@gnh-applesauce.cts.com (Jeff Tarr Jr.) (03/08/91)

At school I work for the Yearbook staff.  This year we are finally going to get
a Mac and start production of the yearbook on it.  With the money we have
available I thought that we should purchase an LC, and an 8-bit color card and
connect a 19" monitor to it.  Is that a decent idea?  Are their any problems
with this newly released LC?  How about an SI?  We could afford an SI with the
normal Hires-RGB monitor, but not a full page display.  

Any suggestions or comments will be greatly appreciated.

--Jeff
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boris@world.std.com (Boris Levitin) (03/09/91)

jefft@gnh-applesauce.cts.com (Jeff Tarr Jr.) writes:
>At school I work for the Yearbook staff. This year we are finally going to get
>a Mac and start production of the yearbook on it.  With the money we have
>available I thought that we should purchase an LC, and an 8-bit color card and
>connect a 19" monitor to it.  Is that a decent idea?  Are their any problems
>with this newly released LC?  How about an SI?  We could afford an SI with the
>normal Hires-RGB monitor, but not a full page display.  
>Any suggestions or comments will be greatly appreciated.

RasterOps, as far as I know, is the only source for 19" 8-bit color cards,
which it prices at $995 list (since RasterOps sells through dealers,
actual prices are 30%+ lower).  The company also sells a complete 19" color
system for $3,795 list.

You might find a 19" 8-bit display a tad slow when driven by the LC, which is
slightly less powerful than the original Mac II (same 16MHz 020 CPU, but only
a 16-bit data path, instead of the original 32-bit one), and a lot slower
when doing floating-point-math-intensive operations such as scaling fonts
using ATM or TrueType, because it doesn't have a floating-point coprocessor.
(I have used both the new, faster version of ATM, 2.0, and Apple's new
TrueType technology, and redraws are noticeably slow even on my FPU-equipped
IIsi driving a 13" 8-bit display.)  A couple of vendors are already making
floating-point coprocessors for the LC (I believe Dynamac and Mobius).  Drawing
software (MacDraw, FreeHand, Illustrator) also makes heavy use of the FPU.
My advice would be to try out the configuration you decide on before you buy
it.

Good luck...

Boris Levitin
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ekalenda@cup.portal.com (Edward John Kalenda) (03/12/91)

>At school I work for the Yearbook staff.  This year we are finally going
>to get a Mac and start production of the yearbook on it.  With the money
>we have available I thought that we should purchase an LC, and an 8-bit
>color card and connect a 19" monitor to it.  Is that a decent idea? 
>Are their any problems with this newly released LC?  How about an SI? 
>We could afford an SI with the normal Hires-RGB monitor, but not a full
>page display.  
>
>Any suggestions or comments will be greatly appreciated.
>
>--Jeff

The Mac LC does not have an expansion slot per se. There is a processor
direct slot which a board with a NUBUS slot can be plugged in. The normal
video for the LC is builtin. I'd go with the Mac IIsi if you can swing
the price. Look for a used to page monochrome display for page
composition and use the little color display for checking color images
and the like.

This is the configuration I use, except that I got lucky and have a IIfx
instead of the IIsi. While the big monochrome doesn't show the color
photos worth sh*t, gray-scale photos are very good if you get a card with
256 shades of grey.

Ed
ekalenda@cup.portal.com

omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (03/12/91)

In article <40050@cup.portal.com> ekalenda@cup.portal.com (Edward John Kalenda) writes:
>> ... I thought that we should purchase an LC, and an 8-bit
>>color card and connect a 19" monitor to it.
>
>The Mac LC does not have an expansion slot per se. There is a processor
>direct slot which a board with a NUBUS slot can be plugged in.

You're thinking of the IIsi.

The Mac LC's slot is unique ... it can not take cards made for any of the
slots in other Macs.  NuBus and '030 PDS adapters are available for the
slot in the Mac IIsi, not the Mac LC.

Third parties are developing cards for the LC's slot that would let
it use large monochrome and color monitors.


-John
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