[comp.sys.mac.misc] Seiko Instruments - A model company

dth@reef.cis.ufl.edu (David Hightower) (03/23/91)

I would like to relate to you my experiences with Seiko Instruments recently.

I am the owner of a Seiko CM-1445 14" monitor for my Macintosh IIci.  When
I purchased the monitor I was assured that it would work with my Apple
8-24 video card; I did not want to use the ci's built-in video with the
commensurate slow-down.  I get the monitor, plug it in, and lo and behold, 
it does NOT work with the video card; it does work with the built-in video,
though.

I call Seiko, and they inform me that the problem is due to Apple changing
the video standards on their 8-24 and 8-24GC cards.  If I mail the monitor
back to them, they tell me, they will modify it free of charge so that it
will work with the video card.  All the newer Seiko monitors already have
this modification.

I use my Macintosh, among other things,  to put out a weekly newsletter which 
MUST be out every week.  I was concerned about the repair time, so I asked 
how long I would be without my monitor.  They assured me that the repair 
would be a 48-hour turnaround ( the repair is simply changing some ROM 
routines) and I should have my monitor back 4 days after they receive it.

Last week I finally had the chance to send the monitor in.  I sent it on
Monday, March 11, by UPS next day air.  The next day I called UPS and they
verified that it had been received and signed for at 10:42 AM (PST) on the
12th of March.

I then called Seiko to confirm that they had received it.  Seiko has
a voice mail system, so after pressing a few buttons on my phone I finally
would up at Tech support--to hear the message

	"extention 5580 is not available. At the tone..."

I left a message asking that they contact me if they haven't received the
monitor.

Thursday, 14 March:  I call Seiko again; again I get the recorded message.
I leave another message.

Friday, 15 March:  I call Seiko again; again the message.  This time, I
press "0" to get to an operator.  She routes me to another machine.  I
leave a message on this one, again asking them to check on the status of
my monitor.

Monday, 18 March:  I call Seiko again; again I'm routed to 5580.  I go to
the operator, she routes me to the other machine.  I go to the operator 
again, she routes me to yet ANOTHER machine.  I leave a message on this
machine; it is supposedly a supervisor's machine.

Tuesday, 19 March.  I call Seiko again; again I go through the the machine
labyrinth.  This time I ask the operator to get me ANYONE who happens to be
working.  I finally talk to a human; she is surprised that I have not been
able to get through.  She does some checking, and tells me that Seiko did
not receive my monitor until 18 March.  I call UPS back, and they give me
the name of the person who signed for the monitor on 12 March.  I call Seiko
back, and they have "no idea" why it was received on the 12th and not
started until the 18th.  She informs me that the monitor is in burn-in and
will be sent out on Wednesday, 20 March.

Thursday, 21 March:  I call Seiko to confirm that the monitor has been 
shipped; they inform me that it has not come out of burn-in and will be
shipped Friday, 22 March.  To "make up for the delay", they tell me, they
will ship it second-day air (which they had told me they would do in the 
first place).

Seiko does NOT have a toll-free number.  I was paying for all these calls,
being on hold, etc.  All I wanted to know was if my monitor had been shipped
yet or not.

As a result of this, I have been required to use a local copy center's 
Macintoshes to put out this week's newsletter (late).  There was no 
newsletter published last week.  

Grand total: 5 messages left on voicemail, none of which were returned
until I finally was able to speak to a supervisor--then only 1 response,
which was a lie.

My point?  None--just be prepared for empty promises and such when dealing
with Seiko Instruments.

Dave

arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru) (03/23/91)

>>>>> On 22 Mar 91 16:51:34 GMT, dth@reef.cis.ufl.edu (David Hightower) said:

| I would like to relate to you my experiences with Seiko Instruments recently.

| I am the owner of a Seiko CM-1445 14" monitor for my Macintosh IIci.  When
| I purchased the monitor I was assured that it would work with my Apple
| 8-24 video card; I did not want to use the ci's built-in video with the
| commensurate slow-down.  I get the monitor, plug it in, and lo and behold, 
| it does NOT work with the video card; it does work with the built-in video,
| though.

| I call Seiko, and they inform me that the problem is due to Apple changing
| the video standards on their 8-24 and 8-24GC cards.  If I mail the monitor
| back to them, they tell me, they will modify it free of charge so that it
| will work with the video card.  All the newer Seiko monitors already have
| this modification.

[Stuff about bad experience deleted...]

| As a result of this, I have been required to use a local copy center's 
| Macintoshes to put out this week's newsletter (late).  There was no 
| newsletter published last week.  

| Grand total: 5 messages left on voicemail, none of which were returned
| until I finally was able to speak to a supervisor--then only 1 response,
| which was a lie.

| My point?  None--just be prepared for empty promises and such when dealing
| with Seiko Instruments.

| Dave

I have to comment here about the fact that I had to do the same thing
with my Seiko 14" color monitor and I had a completely different experience.
I called Seiko, asked them about the fix and was told that it will take 4
days.  They let me choose the way I wanted to ship the monitor and paid
for it (I chose Federal Express).  The monitor was back in my hands six
days after I shipped it, including a weekend.  No problems, no calls
from me to them, no expenses.  Actually, I was surprised by the excellent 
service.




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