yee@osf.org (Michael K. Yee) (04/05/91)
Does anyone know if the following Cdevs and Inits work on System 7.0, -OR- if System 7.0 has the features provide by the Inits and Cdevs builtin to the system? o Scroll2 - changes scrollbars to have double arrow button (3D-look) o After Dark - Multi-module screen saver o Init Cdev - Init manager o Boomerange or Rebound - makes SF Dialog remember last selection o SuperClock - menubar clock o OnCue - menubar application launcher o UnScrolly - Control Panel de-iconizer (Is the Control Panel available in System 7.0?) o ATM - Adobe Type Manager o Type ReUnion - Groupify Adobe font families o PopChar - Popup special character picker I heard that System 7.0 has a 3D look to its frames (great!). I loved the 3D look from the Following Cdev, but had to give it up after getting a color machine. What does the System 7.0 3d look like (NeXT, Following CDev, SGI, Motif :-))? Many thanks, =Mike -- = Michael K. Yee -- yee@osf.org or uunet!osf.org!yee -- = OSF/Motif Development = "I can't give you brains, but I can give you a diploma." -- The Wizard of OZ
anders@verity.com (Anders Wallgren) (04/05/91)
In article <YEE.91Apr4144246@katana.osf.org>, yee@osf (Michael K. Yee) writes: > > Does anyone know if the following Cdevs and Inits work on System > 7.0, -OR- if System 7.0 has the features provide by the Inits and > Cdevs builtin to the system? > > o After Dark - Multi-module screen saver AD worked in b4, but not b5, and mostly works in FC1 (one small problem in 32-bit mode). > o Boomerange or Rebound - makes SF Dialog remember last selection Boomerang has problems with 32-bit mode, but FC1 keeps it from crashing, apparently. > o SuperClock - menubar clock Works like a charm > I heard that System 7.0 has a 3D look to its frames (great!). I > loved the 3D look from the Following Cdev, but had to give it up > after getting a color machine. What does the System 7.0 3d look > like (NeXT, Following CDev, SGI, Motif :-))? It's pretty unique among these. It's definately not as garish as Motif, but not as plain as NeXT. I haven't seen SGI or the Following frames. It basically just looks like a plump version of the old window frame, except the white has been replaced by a subdued blue/gray, with a very faint (user-selectable) colored hilite. The thumbs in scroll bars have a little friction mark in the middle sort of like real sliders on electronic equipment. All in all, I think they've done a nice job of making it nicer to look at without having it get in your way.
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach, net.god {retired}) (04/06/91)
yee@osf.org (Michael K. Yee) writes: > Does anyone know if the following Cdevs and Inits work on System > 7.0, -OR- if System 7.0 has the features provide by the Inits and > Cdevs builtin to the system? This isn't by any means official, but here's what works on my machines. I'm currently working wih 7.0FC1. Your mileage may vary. > o Scroll2 - changes scrollbars to have double arrow button (3D-look) Dunno. > o After Dark - Multi-module screen saver 2.0s and 2.0t seem to work pretty well. there are evidently some minor glitches, but I haven't seen them. > o Init Cdev - Init manager Most init managers will have to be fixed because of the new system folder structure. I'm using one called "extension manager" which was written here at Apple. > o Boomerange or Rebound - makes SF Dialog remember last selection SuperBoomerang 2.0.3 works fine with a couple of minor cosmetic oopsies. Boomerang doesn't. (buy Now Utilities). > o SuperClock - menubar clock 3.9 works great. > o OnCue - menubar application launcher I had so many problems with this trashing stuff under 6.0.x, I finally gave up on it. Forget it under 7.0 without an upgrade. On the other hand, I don't miss it, because I own DiskTop 4.0 and Disktop (with CE Toolbox and the DiskTop Extras file) have a feature called DiskTop Launch, which DOES work just fine, does essentially the same thing as OnCue but installs it in the Apple menu instead of hiding it up in the corners. Cleaner intereface, although I miss the Hmenu. (releases: DiskTop 4.0.1, CEToolbox 3.5i, DiskTop.Extras 1.0). > o UnScrolly - Control Panel de-iconizer (Is the Control Panel > available in System 7.0?) Obsolete. > o ATM - Adobe Type Manager 2.0 works fine. > o Type ReUnion - Groupify Adobe font families Dunno. > o PopChar - Popup special character picker 1.3 and 1.4 both seem to work fine. > I heard that System 7.0 has a 3D look to its frames (great!). I > loved the 3D look from the Following Cdev, but had to give it up > after getting a color machine. What does the System 7.0 3d look > like (NeXT, Following CDev, SGI, Motif :-))? It looks like a Mac, only better. Other things I'm working with, to complete the list: o QuicKey2 (2.3 alpha something. It'll be fully 7.0 compatible near ship time) o Shiva Netserial/Netmodem software (3.5) o MacTCP o Suitcase 1.2.9 o Apple CD Rom files o SCSIProbe 2.0.2 (2.0.3 evidently has problems) o Power Prog Key o Remember? (fully compatible, including the init and alarm popups) o Scanner (for apple scanner. I had some problems with b4, but haven't tried it recently) o SilverInit 5.25 (for my Syquest) o MS Mail 2.0 (some problems, supposedly fixed in 3.0) o On Location (minus the INIT and auto-updating. They're working on it) o Switch-A-Roo and Mount'Em FKEYS o Suitcase 1.2.9 Anyone who says 7.0 won't be stable or that everything's going to break on it hasn't used it. If you look at the stuff I'm tossing on my systems, it's hard to argue that I'm babying 7.0, and I find it (have, for the most part, since b4) rock solid. -- Chuq Von Rospach >=< chuq@apple.com >=< GEnie: CHUQ >=< AppleLink: CHUQ SFWA Nebula Awards Reports Editor =+= Editor, OtherRealms Book Reviewer, Amazing Stories ---@--- #include <standard/disclaimer.h> Recommended reading: GOBLIN MOON by Teresa Edgerton; BONE DANCE by Emma Bull; BLIND JUSTICE by S.N. Lewitt
TOGE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Nobukazu Toge) (04/06/91)
Re: PopChar 1.3 and 1.4 -
It has problems displaying characters that are handled by TrueType.
The pop-up window (name?) is shrunk in size and you can't select
the characters quite right.
With the traditional style bitmap fonts (w or w/o ATM), it works
just fine whether it's on 6.0.x or 7.0b4.
If anyone knows a work-around or the right solution with TT,
I'd like to hear.
- Nobu Toge (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center)
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