cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu (04/17/91)
Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those that do also.
kanderso@liege.ics.uci.edu (Ken Anderson) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu> cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes: >Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those >that do also. Does anyone know if this is a practical joke? Probably the person whose account this was sent from is unaware that it was sent. I can't imagine anyone in a reasonable state of mind would post this message delibrately. Ken Anderson -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Anderson | "I'd much rather live in perfection, U.C. Irvine | than deal with reality." -- Kenbod --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu> cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes: >Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those >that do also. Uhhhh..... April's Fool Day was 15 days ago. I think this message is a little bit late, what say? | J. Taggart Gorman Jr. | "I'm a no rust build up man myself." | | -Christian Slater | jtgorman@caslon.cs.arizona.edu | in 'Heathers'
russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu> cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes: >Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those >that do also. Sure, just post your name, address, Social Security number, any identifying marks, etc, and some people from an organization called the SPA will be glad to discuss this with you. -- Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu .sig under construction, like the rest of this campus.
sven@cs.widener.edu (Sven Heinicke) (04/17/91)
In <280B68AB.18908@ics.uci.edu>, kanderso@ics.uci.edu writes: >In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu> cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes: >>Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those >>that do also. > >Does anyone know if this is a practical joke? Probably the person whose >account this was sent from is unaware that it was sent. I can't imagine >anyone in a reasonable state of mind would post this message delibrately. > Well it is kind of a interesting aproch, who would think that somebody would be thick headed enough to do that. -- sven@cs.widener.edu Widener CS system manager Sven Mike Heinicke and Student (pssmheinicke@cyber.widener.edu (if you must))
afry@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Alan R. Fry) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu> cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes: >Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those >that do also. This same account was used to post a ridiculous article in alt.sex (which I won't include since c.s.m.m is a family newsgroup :-). Looks like another case of a cs-101 student who forgot to log out and the clever (ha) practical joker who exploited it. Ah, those classic undergrad japes! Alan (yes, really me) -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Alan R Fry | You know what I hate? | | afry@uhura.cc.rochester.edu | Rhetorical questions. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu>, cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes: >Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those >that do also. Yes, I pirate games. I also run over children playing in the street, torture small animals to hear them scream, and take tax deductions for work expenses like safecracking supplies. We can only hope that this guy is kidding... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Price | Internet: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu 5-145 Knudsen Hall | BITNET: price@uclaph UCLA Dept. of Physics | SPAN: uclapp::price Los Angeles, CA 90024-1547 | YellNet: 213-825-2259 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
xdpq8@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (04/18/91)
Get this A**hole off of the net... Steve
jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) (04/18/91)
In article <1991Apr17.175320.10527@news.iastate.edu> xdpq8@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU writes: >Get this A**hole off of the net... > >Steve Why do people do this? Do they think it's too offensive to write "asshole?" If so, do they think it's somehow less offensive to write "a**hole?" "look, Marge, he called someone an apehole!" Give me a break. Either you have the courgae to use the word or you don't. J*ff S***ivan -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey A. Sullivan | Senior Systems Programmer jas@venera.isi.edu | Information Sciences Institute jas@isi.edu | University of Southern California
xdpq8@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (04/18/91)
J*ff, Actually I didn't want to offend anyone if they don't condone such language use... Steve
kms@pro-permian.cts.com (Kevin M. Smallwood) (04/18/91)
In-Reply-To: message from cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu
I hope you know what you just did. You basically told thousands of
people what an idiot you are, and where to find you. You had better hope
you don't get reported to any anti-piracy agencies. You'd be amazed at the
penalties they could levy against you...
On to other matters -- I have a Mac Plus that has been plugging
away faithfully since the day I bought it (new). I am wanting to know a few
things about it.
1) With 1 meg of memory, am I able to run the latest system
software? (Also, what IS the latest version? I haven't touched my Mac in
months)
2) If it won't run the latest software, what is a Mac+ worth these
days?
Thank you.
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|_____________________________________________|______________________________|jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (john cavallino) (04/19/91)
In article <1991Apr18.021454.20472@news.iastate.edu> xdpq8@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU writes: >J*ff, > Actually I didn't want to offend anyone if they don't condone such >language use... > >Steve AARRGHH!! Then why did you use it?? EVERYONE who read your article knew EXACTLY what the word was, so if they were offendable, THEY WERE OFFENDED! Two measily little asterisks aren't going to fool anybody. I agree with Jeff. If you're going to use profanity, USE IT, else DON'T, but don't wimp out. JohnC -- John Cavallino | EMail: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu University of Chicago Hospitals | USMail: 5841 S. Maryland Ave, Box 145 Office of Facilities Management | Chicago, IL 60637 B0 f++ w c+ g+ k s(+) e+ h- pv | Telephone: 312-702-6900
ghe@physics.orst.edu (Guangliang He) (04/19/91)
In article <8670@crash.cts.com>, kms@pro-permian.cts.com (Kevin M. Smallwood) writes: |> |> 1) With 1 meg of memory, am I able to run the latest system |> software? (Also, what IS the latest version? I haven't touched my Mac in |> months) |> Yes. You should be able to run the lastest system (6.0.7) with 1 meg. |> Thank you. You're welcome. |> ____________________________________________________________________________ |> | | | |> | ProLine : kms@pro-permian | Kevin M. Smallwood | |> | Internet : kms@pro-permian.cts.com | 4415 Northcrest Drive #2816 | |> | UUCP : crash!pro-permian!kms | Midland, Texas 79707 | |> | ARPA : crash!pro-permian!kms@nosc.mil | (915) 520-3011 (Voice) | |> | AOL : kms2 | (915) 520-3010 (Modem) | |> |_____________________________________________|______________________________| --- Guangliang He ghe@physics.orst.edu
swansond@cube05.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson) (04/19/91)
In article <8670@crash.cts.com> kms@pro-permian.cts.com (Kevin M. Smallwood) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu > > I hope you know what you just did. You basically told thousands of >people what an idiot you are, and where to find you. You had better hope >you don't get reported to any anti-piracy agencies. You'd be amazed at the >penalties they could levy against you... > Gads. I can't believe that the butthead who posted the original piracy message is from MY school. Maybe I'll ask around and try to find this guy just to see if he's for real or not. Anyone sent mail to root@shazam.ecs.csus.edu to see what the sys admin thinks of messages like that? I think I will. > On to other matters -- I have a Mac Plus that has been plugging >away faithfully since the day I bought it (new). I am wanting to know a few >things about it. > > 1) With 1 meg of memory, am I able to run the latest system >software? (Also, what IS the latest version? I haven't touched my Mac in >months) > The latest released-to-the-general-populace system software is 6.0.7 (7.0 is still in beta-testing, I believe). Before I upgraded my Plus to beyond 1 meg, I felt a little cramped running 6.0.x, but it's feasible with a Minimum Plus setup (you tell the Installer to fix you up with just enough goodies to operate the Plus and no other Mac model). Well, it's feasible if you have a hard drive. Before I got one, I stuck with system 3.2, which originally came with my machine back in '86. With a two-floppy system, I had the application on one floppy, and the system folder plus room for documents on the other floppy (I hate disk-swapping). > 2) If it won't run the latest software, what is a Mac+ worth these >days? > Realize that your Plus is worth much more to you right now than it is to anyone else. That is, it's probably worth a lot more to you than what you could get for it (I think I read Apple has its trade-in value at $200). For my purposes the Plus is still fine. I do mostly programming and word processing, so I don't need color, a huge screen, or ultra-fast floating- point processing. Unless you need capabilities your machine ain't got, like the above, invest in some more RAM and a hard drive if you don't have one already. I initially upgraded to 2.5 meg so I could run the source-level debugger of Think C, but just recently went to 4 megs in anticipation of system 7. >Thank you. > ____________________________________________________________________________ >| | | >| ProLine : kms@pro-permian | Kevin M. Smallwood | >| Internet : kms@pro-permian.cts.com | 4415 Northcrest Drive #2816 | >| UUCP : crash!pro-permian!kms | Midland, Texas 79707 | >| ARPA : crash!pro-permian!kms@nosc.mil | (915) 520-3011 (Voice) | >| AOL : kms2 | (915) 520-3010 (Modem) | >|_____________________________________________|______________________________| /Dennis M. Swanson --> swansond@csus.edu / "He was as calm as a/ /Macintosh Lab Assistant/Computer Science Student/ Perry Como groupie."/ /University Computing and Communications Services/ -- Sledge Hammer/ /California State University, Sacramento /"Harness the Macpower!"/
klingspo@mozart.cs.colostate.edu (Steve Klingsporn) (04/19/91)
I think that a person such as this draws attention to a fact that nobody wants to admit: People do pirate games on the Macintosh, and on any other computer, and this stands as a problem in the industry. Perhaps if software these days wasn't so overpriced and didn't have the tendency to be BAD software in general, and poorly supported, these activities wouldn't happen as much. Personally, I do not pirate games, but have friends that do -- it's a problem that has no real practical solution. Face it, if you are going to put out crap on the market, people aren't going to pay for it. While I won't condone piracy, I do believe in try before you by -- hence, I think that if it's worth your hard disk or usage, you had better get your ass to the store and buy a legit copy. I think it's not that hard to make a demo of a game -- game programming in general is rather difficult. Put out demos, and let people TRY BEFORE THEY BUY. Damn, the only game on the market for the Mac that I'd consider buying right now is OIDS. P.S. ORIGIN SYSTEMS, wherever you are, release Ultima 6 -- a series of games that I've always bought and been quite happy -- delighted -- with -- for the Macintosh in color!!!! Not to stir up, Steve Klingsporn
sven@cs.widener.edu (Sven Heinicke) (04/19/91)
In <1991Apr18.181335.23350@midway.uchicago.edu>, jcav@quads.uchicago.edu writes: >In article <1991Apr18.021454.20472@news.iastate.edu> xdpq8@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU writes: > >AARRGHH!! Then why did you use it?? EVERYONE who read your article knew >EXACTLY what the word was, so if they were offendable, THEY WERE OFFENDED! >Two measily little asterisks aren't going to fool anybody. I agree with >Jeff. If you're going to use profanity, USE IT, else DON'T, but don't wimp >out. > What about FCC ratings, maby not over internet (due to its international status) but if apple get that wave length opproved will saying, this, unwarnted words be alowed if there is some kind of public use for thies. On movies on tv they do just that, beep out the unwanted words and everybody always know what there saying. So putting asterisks there will make a differance from the point of the people who make the rules. -- sven@cs.widener.edu Widener CS system manager Sven Mike Heinicke and Student (pssmheinicke@cyber.widener.edu (if you must))
erby@alchemy.tcnet.ithaca.ny.us (Michael Erb) (04/19/91)
jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (john cavallino) writes: > In article <1991Apr18.021454.20472@news.iastate.edu> xdpq8@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU > >J*ff, > > Actually I didn't want to offend anyone if they don't condone such > >language use... > > > >Steve > > AARRGHH!! Then why did you use it?? EVERYONE who read your article knew > EXACTLY what the word was, so if they were offendable, THEY WERE OFFENDED! > Two measily little asterisks aren't going to fool anybody. I agree with > Jeff. If you're going to use profanity, USE IT, else DON'T, but don't wimp > out. > > JohnC > > -- > John Cavallino | EMail: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu > University of Chicago Hospitals | USMail: 5841 S. Maryland Ave, Box 14 > Office of Facilities Management | Chicago, IL 60637 > B0 f++ w c+ g+ k s(+) e+ h- pv | Telephone: 312-702-6900 John, Following your logic as I understand it...If I think about killing someone, then I might as well actually kill someone? Personally, I would rather not see profanity on the Net and asterisks at least lighten things up a little. Of course a private mail message should be able to contain profanity if you want. My opinion. Mike ****************************************************** E-Mail: erby@alchemy.tcnet.ithaca.ny.us (Michael Erb) USPS : Michael R. Erb PO Box 6770 Ithaca, NY 14851-6770 Phone : (607) 277-4326 ******************************************************
jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) (04/20/91)
In article <-16_GQ#@cs.widener.edu> sven@cs.widener.edu (Sven Heinicke) writes: >In <1991Apr18.181335.23350@midway.uchicago.edu>, jcav@quads.uchicago.edu writes: >>In article <1991Apr18.021454.20472@news.iastate.edu> xdpq8@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU writes: >> >>AARRGHH!! Then why did you use it?? EVERYONE who read your article knew >>EXACTLY what the word was, so if they were offendable, THEY WERE OFFENDED! >>Two measily little asterisks aren't going to fool anybody. I agree with >>Jeff. If you're going to use profanity, USE IT, else DON'T, but don't wimp >>out. >> > >What about FCC ratings, maby not over internet (due to its >international status) but if apple get that wave length opproved will >saying, this, unwarnted words be alowed if there is some kind of >public use for thies. On movies on tv they do just that, beep out the >unwanted words and everybody always know what there saying. So >putting asterisks there will make a differance from the point of the >people who make the rules. > >-- >sven@cs.widener.edu Widener CS system manager >Sven Mike Heinicke and Student >(pssmheinicke@cyber.widener.edu (if you must)) Are you sure? I disagree. Most people do *not* know what they're saying when they drop out expletives on air. A lot do, but certainly not most. Besides, you're talking about somehting that hasn't even been approved yet, let alone implemented. I'm sure that there will have to be new FCC regulations to cover it. For example: I am on my BroadNet(tm) sending a chapter of my new novel to my editor. Does this mean I have to ** out all of the profanity in the document? I am a lawyer, sending a deposition to a client or court or another lawyer. Do I have to go through and ** out any 'bad words?' You see where your analogy goes. Right in the shitter. (oops ;-) jas -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey A. Sullivan | Senior Systems Programmer jas@venera.isi.edu | Information Sciences Institute jas@isi.edu | University of Southern California
tagreen@lothario.ucs.indiana.edu (Todd Green) (04/20/91)
In article <-16_GQ#@cs.widener.edu> sven@cs.widener.edu (Sven Heinicke) writes: >In <1991Apr18.181335.23350@midway.uchicago.edu>, jcav@quads.uchicago.edu writes: >>In article <1991Apr18.021454.20472@news.iastate.edu> xdpq8@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU writes: >> >>AARRGHH!! Then why did you use it?? EVERYONE who read your article knew >>EXACTLY what the word was, so if they were offendable, THEY WERE OFFENDED! >What about FCC ratings, maby not over internet (due to its >international status) but if apple get that wave length opproved will >saying, this, unwarnted words be alowed if there is some kind of >public use for thies. On movies on tv they do just that, beep out the >unwanted words and everybody always know what there saying. So >putting asterisks there will make a differance from the point of the >people who make the rules. Ah, but this is the internet, and is quite different from what you are talking about. I have to agree with the people in support for just spelling it out. If you're going to swear than do it. You speak of public television and radio where the shows are edited before they are broadcasted. There is no such facility in place on the internet. Who/what is going to scan our messages for profanity before they get posted? Is there going to be some program that searches your post for a predefined list of "no-no"s? If so how would you implement it? It's not as simple as saying the rule makers don't approve of it. Todd -- Internet: tagreen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu NeXTMail: tagreen@lothario.ucs.indiana.edu BitNet: tagreen@iubacs.bitnet
john@newave.UUCP (John A. Weeks III) (04/20/91)
In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu> cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes: > Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those > that do also. Why bother when the best Mac software is free (well, beerware)? FTP over to Stanford and pick up Continium 1.3. -john- -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John A. Weeks III (612) 942-6969 john@newave.mn.org NeWave Communications ...uunet!tcnet!wd0gol!newave!john
swansond@cube05.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson) (04/22/91)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From holtzman@shazam.ecs.csus.edu Sat Apr 20 16:08:42 1991 Received: by csus.edu (5.57/CSUS-RCH-1.0) id AA11328; Sat, 20 Apr 91 16:11:39 PDT Message-Id: <9104202311.AA11328@csus.edu> Received: by shazam.ecs.csus.edu (15.11/15.6) id AA12233; Sat, 20 Apr 91 16:11:05 pst Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 16:11:05 pst From: Jim Holtzman <holtzman@shazam.ecs.csus.edu> To: swansond@csus.edu Subject: Mac Games Status: OR I want to think all of you for making me aware of the advertisements. We are already aware of what has happened and are correcting the problem. A student or students are playing a joke on another and will be taken care of. James Holtzman, root, Shazam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I guess it wasn't for real, as someone else had suggested. Being such a high-numbered course (184 -- typically senior level classes here), I figured the person knew what he/she was doing. Well, I've been told that it's one of the beginning computer classes for the major, so it's entirely possible the account-holder didn't log out and someone else came along and made mischief. Den /Dennis M. Swanson --> swansond@csus.edu / "He was as calm as a/ /Macintosh Lab Assistant/Computer Science Student/ Perry Como groupie."/ /University Computing and Communications Services/ -- Sledge Hammer/ /California State University, Sacramento /"Harness the Macpower!"/
aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) (04/22/91)
In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu> cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes:
Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those
that do also.
No, I'm sorry. No one else pirates Mac games. Sorry!
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In article <ALAND.91Apr21233450@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) writes: >In article <1991Apr16.193517.16565@csusac.csus.edu> cp18421@shazam.ecs.csus.edu writes: > > Hey Does anyone pirate Mac games? I do and I would like to trade with those > that do also. > >No, I'm sorry. No one else pirates Mac games. Sorry! And, as a bit of advice, even if EVERYONE here pirated games or anything else, it would not be too bright to blab it over internet. Doing that is like taking out a full-page add in all major newspapers and calling the FBI, only worse. -- --- Michael Weiss | School of Engineering \ / weiss@watson.seas.ucla.edu | and Applied Science ----O---- izzydp5@oac.ucla.edu | UCLA YF " 22