[comp.sys.mac.misc] MS-WORD: I don't want "Fast Save"

sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) (04/26/91)

When I select the "Save as..." command in MS-WORD, the "Fast Save" 
option is checked.  I can't seem to turn this option off in a
permanent way.  When I click on the box, yes, the X in the box
disappears...but next time I go back to "Save as", the stupid thing
is set to do Fast Save again!  

It would be nice to turn Fast Save off and make it a *default*.  When
I try selecting "File Format..." in the "Save As..." dialog, there is indeed
a "Default format for file" checkbox, but it is *deactivated* whenever
I have selected "Normal" file format.  So, it's impossible to click in 
the "Default format for file" checkbox.  

I also looked in the command "Preferences...".  there's nothing there
that can help either.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Greg Sandell
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ralph@cbnewsj.att.com (Ralph Brandi) (04/26/91)

In article <1498@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) writes:

>It would be nice to turn Fast Save off and make it a *default*.  When

1. Select "Commands..." from the "Edit" menu

2. Find the command "Fast Save Enabled" in the list of available
   commands.

3. Press the "Add" button to add it to the "Edit" menu.

4. Go the the "Edit" menu.  If the newly added "Fast Save Enabled"
   item has a check next to it, choose the item to disable fast save.

Hope this helps.
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dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil) (04/26/91)

sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) writes:

>When I select the "Save as..." command in MS-WORD, the "Fast Save" 
>option is checked.  I can't seem to turn this option off in a
>permanent way.  When I click on the box, yes, the X in the box
>disappears...but next time I go back to "Save as", the stupid thing
>is set to do Fast Save again!  

>It would be nice to turn Fast Save off and make it a *default*.  When
>I try selecting "File Format..." in the "Save As..." dialog, there is indeed
>a "Default format for file" checkbox, but it is *deactivated* whenever
>I have selected "Normal" file format.  So, it's impossible to click in 
>the "Default format for file" checkbox.  

>I also looked in the command "Preferences...".  there's nothing there
>that can help either.

What you need to do is to go to the "Commands..." item in the
Edit menu. Go to the item on the list called "Fast Save
Enabled." Add this item to a menu and then make sure there is
not a check mark on the menu item. When "Fast Save Enabled" is
checked you get a fast save, when it's not checked you get a
complete save.
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chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach, only here for the beer) (04/26/91)

sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) writes:

>It would be nice to turn Fast Save off and make it a *default*.  When
>I try selecting "File Format..." in the "Save As..." dialog, there is indeed
>a "Default format for file" checkbox, but it is *deactivated* whenever
>I have selected "Normal" file format.  So, it's impossible to click in 
>the "Default format for file" checkbox.  

You're looking in the wrong place. Assuming you have full menus turned on,
go into "Commands..." and then type an "F". That takes you to "Fast Save
Enabled". Now, you can either click on "Do", which toggles the value of that
command, or do what I did: click on "Add" to put "Fast Save Enabled" into
the Edit menu. That way, you can see the state of that option -- a checkmark
means it's enabled, no checkmark means it's disabled.

Word 4 will let you do just about anything -- once you figure it out. If you
haven't played with the "Commands..." subsystem you're missing a lot of
things.

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gerhard@cs.arizona.edu (Gerhard Mehldau) (04/26/91)

In article <1498@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>, sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) writes:
> When I select the "Save as..." command in MS-WORD, the "Fast Save" 
> option is checked.  I can't seem to turn this option off in a
> permanent way.  When I click on the box, yes, the X in the box
> disappears...but next time I go back to "Save as", the stupid thing
> is set to do Fast Save again!  

> It would be nice to turn Fast Save off and make it a *default*.  When
> I try selecting "File Format..." in the "Save As..." dialog, there is indeed
> a "Default format for file" checkbox, but it is *deactivated* whenever
> I have selected "Normal" file format.  So, it's impossible to click in 
> the "Default format for file" checkbox.  

> I also looked in the command "Preferences...".  there's nothing there
> that can help either.

Close, but no cigar -- it's the next one down.  From the manual, p.312:

"To have Word perform a full, normal save each time you choose the Save
command, you can turn off the Fast Save Enabled option, available through
the Commands command.  With this option off, the Fast Save option in the
Save As dialog box remains dimmed.  To turn the Fast Save Enabled option
on and off, select Fast Save Enabled from the list in the Commands dialog
box, and then click the Do button."

Now _that's_ what I call intuitive :-) !

- Gerhard


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aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) (04/30/91)

sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) writes:

>It would be nice to turn Fast Save off and make it a *default*.  When
>I try selecting "File Format..." in the "Save As..." dialog, there is indeed
>a "Default format for file" checkbox, but it is *deactivated* whenever
>I have selected "Normal" file format.  So, it's impossible to click in 
>the "Default format for file" checkbox.  

The reason Fast Save is re-turned-on <there's probably a word for that :)>
is because you have made more than a specific number of changes to the
document.  The way around this is to go to Commands, & choose "Fast
Save" which makes it a permanent menu choice.  Then you can turn it on
or off at your leisure.

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denbeste@bgsuvax.UUCP (William C. DenBesten) (04/30/91)

From article <1498@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>, by sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell):

> It would be nice to turn Fast Save off and make it a *default*.  When

In the Edit menu, select Commands.  Scroll until you see "Fast Save
Enabled" select it and select "Do".

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tvex@milton.u.washington.edu (t@vex) (04/30/91)

In article <7389@bgsuvax.UUCP> denbeste@bgsuvax.UUCP (William C. DenBesten) writes:
>From article <1498@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>, by sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell):
>
>> It would be nice to turn Fast Save off and make it a *default*.  When
>
>In the Edit menu, select Commands.  Scroll until you see "Fast Save
>Enabled" select it and select "Do".


However: I've noticed that the "fast save" format is invoked in the file-type
when your document has tables embedded in it--or at least when you try to
open a document with tables with Nisus 3.04. I use Nisus a lot and discovered
this to my dismay when I tried to open a client's document that contained
budget tables and was totally unable to do so until I opened it with Word 4.0,
changed the table back to tabs, and then saved it again. The error dialogue
I got from Nisus told me something to the effect that Nisus was unable to open
Word documents in fast-save format.

blm@6sceng.UUCP (Brian Matthews) (05/02/91)

In article <1991Apr30.152944.8677@milton.u.washington.edu> tvex@milton.u.washington.edu (t@vex) writes:
|However: I've noticed that the "fast save" format is invoked in the file-type
|when your document has tables embedded in it--or at least when you try to
|open a document with tables with Nisus 3.04. I use Nisus a lot and discovered
|this to my dismay when I tried to open a client's document that contained
|budget tables and was totally unable to do so until I opened it with Word 4.0,
|changed the table back to tabs, and then saved it again. The error dialogue
|I got from Nisus told me something to the effect that Nisus was unable to open
|Word documents in fast-save format.

I suspect the real problem is that Nisus doesn't grok Word tables, and
displays a poor error message.  Most of the documents I work with contain
tables, I've got fast save turned off, and Word always does a complete
(slow :-)) save.
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