[comp.sys.mac.misc] Tell me: what was System 1.0 like?

chou@steelhead.cs.washington.edu (Pai Hsiang Chou) (05/10/91)

In article <13941@ur-cc.UUCP> hlsw_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dave Hollinsworth) writes:
>Well, with 7-Day rapidly approaching, let's get nostalgic, shall we?
>
>I've only had a Mac for 2 years, so I'll leave it to the old-timers to
>answer the question:  What was the original Mac system (1.0) like?
>(note:  if 1.0 wasn't stable, then what was the first stable system after
>1.0 like?)
>
>Just wondering,

I got one of the very first Mac's back in 1984.
The system was actually not that bad.
The "look" was defined back then, though the "feel" today is nicer
because of reduced latency (from more memory and harddisk).
The lack of memory was a real nightmare.

The System was about 200K, and Finder was about 50K, so
you could actually fit system, finder, MacWrite, and MacPaint
on the same 400K floppy!  The programs back then were very
frugal in their memory usage.  They swapped out an unused
program code segment whenever possible.  However, MacWrite could
handle about 3 pages of text max and would run out of memory while
printing in "High Quality" mode.

it took about 30 seconds to quit an application and return
to the finder.  (minifinder, switcher, and multifinder were nonexistent)
I didn't have an external drive back then, and
I got my daily workout by swapping disks.

Oh, there was no HFS.  But we stored files on separate disks
anyway.  We had folders in the finder back then, but the
files were all lumped together in the Open dialog box.

One thing that I miss is that the old Finder shows you
the size of the folders on top of the window; but since they
went HFS, you have to do a Get Info command.

The original zoom (when you open a document) looked different.
It would zoom from the icon into the center of the screen,
and then zoom out to the entire screen.  They changed it so
it just zooms out. 

The floppy icon also looked different.  When selected, the
sliding door was white.

There was a Font Mover program, but not a DA mover.
New York (instead of Geneva) was the default application font.
The available fonts were Chicago 12, New York 9/12/14/18/24,
Geneva 9/12/14/18/24, Monaco 9/12, London 18, Venice 14, and Toranto.

It was very hard to move DA's.  No official tool was available.
I tried using CE Software's DA mover but it was flaky.
The DAs were notepad, scrapbook, calculator, puzzle,
alarm clock, keycaps, and control panel.
There were no cdevs though, which came rather late in the game.
ImageWriter was the only printer driver.

Pai Chou
chou@june.cs.washington.edu

russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) (05/10/91)

In article <1991May10.043600.246@beaver.cs.washington.edu> chou@steelhead.cs.washington.edu (Pai Hsiang Chou) writes:
>In article <13941@ur-cc.UUCP> hlsw_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dave Hollinsworth) writes:
>>Well, with 7-Day rapidly approaching, let's get nostalgic, shall we?
>>
>>I've only had a Mac for 2 years, so I'll leave it to the old-timers to
>>answer the question:  What was the original Mac system (1.0) like?
>>(note:  if 1.0 wasn't stable, then what was the first stable system after
>>1.0 like?)
>
>One thing that I miss is that the old Finder shows you
>the size of the folders on top of the window; but since they
>went HFS, you have to do a Get Info command.

In 7, it's back, along with one of everyone's favorite features of Finder 1.1g
--- that neat mountain picture in the About box.

>The original zoom (when you open a document) looked different.
>It would zoom from the icon into the center of the screen,
>and then zoom out to the entire screen.  They changed it so
>it just zooms out. 

Yeah, I liked the old way better, though it was slower.

>There was a Font Mover program, but not a DA mover.
>New York (instead of Geneva) was the default application font.
>The available fonts were Chicago 12, New York 9/12/14/18/24,
>Geneva 9/12/14/18/24, Monaco 9/12, London 18, Venice 14, and Toranto.

Don't forget San Francisco and Cairo.  (or did they come along slightly later?)

>It was very hard to move DA's.  No official tool was available.

ResEdit was available way back when, but it was sure a pain.  And buggy
as OS/2.

>The DAs were notepad, scrapbook, calculator, puzzle,
>alarm clock, keycaps, and control panel.
>There were no cdevs though, which came rather late in the game.
>ImageWriter was the only printer driver.

For us Lisa users, there was also the 'Parallel Printer driver', and there was
a modified Imagewriter driver called 'Imagewriter 15'

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