[comp.sys.mac.misc] Word processors vs typesetters

turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) (05/27/91)

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In article <ROLFL.91May27123127@hedda.uio.no> rolfl@hedda.uio.no (Rolf Lindgren) writes:
> ... The comparison with WYSIWYG word processors doesn't keep up
> because TeX offers you the ability to take any degree of control, 
> something that word processors can't if you want to keep their
> operation user friendly.  Word processors have the great
> disadvantage that they try to conform to the notion that `"it's 
> more important that programs are easy to use, than that they
> do what they're supposed to do" ...

Some might say that programs such as TeX have succombed to the
"fallacy" that "it's more important that programs [have the most
beautiful output], than that they do what they are supposed to
do".  What Mr Lindgren fails to note is that different people
have different views of what their writing tool is "supposed to
do", which is why there are different tools in the first place.

I want my writing tool to do several things.

   (1)  Make it easy for me to write and edit papers.

   (2)  Produce good hard copy.

   (3)  Produce a good screen display for reading.

   (4)  Support transmission of papers and paper fragments.

In my opinion, TeX and its variants totally fail (1).  They are
also poor at (3) -- it is more difficult for me to browse a TeX
file than it is for me to browse a file under almost any of the
Mac word processors.  (For the former, I have to learn how to get
on the screen a formatted or de-TeX'd image.  The first is
difficult and the latter is unacceptable.  To browse a word
processor file on the Mac, I just double click and scroll.)

TeX is marginally superior at (2), which is why I originally
posed the question.  But, in my opninion, the difference is not
so great that it makes up for TeX's other deficiencies.

It is more complex to describe how TeX both succeeds and fails at
the final goal.  Supposedly, one should be able to e-mail a TeX
file, and the recipient can run it off and see the desired hard
copy.  The last time someone tried to send me a paper this way, I
and a local TeX expert spent an hour searching for the right TeX
macro package.  Feh!  For this purpose, Postscript or other
printer image files are *much* better.  Send me the .dvi and
forget about the TeX! 

The other problem is that people try to send me, or even post
(!), TeX fragments for reading and editing.  This is totally
useless; I neither read nor write TeX.  (Admittedly, word
processors do not do well at (4) either.  One can send the
Postscript output of course, and if the other person uses the
same or a compatible word-processor, one can send the original
file.  In this regard, the choices are the same as for TeX.  But
one can also send a plain-text version produced by the word
processor, which is usually for superior to deTeX'd files, and
plain-text fragments are more easily read back into complete
papers.) 

The belief that a writing tool that does (1) well cannot do (2)
well is wrong.  In many Mac word processors there are frequent
format changes that affect global appearance.  The better ones do
the change in the background, and at some point a reformat "wave"
will move down the screen.  (I hardly even notice it.) Thus, both
global formatting control and WYSIWYG are preserved.  (Even for
paragraph or page wide spacing calculation, the tool could first
display a line by line approximation as text is entered, and then
once the paragraph is finished or the cursor is off the page,
redisplay any changes to the paragraph or page.)

Writing tools are getting better at both (1) and (2).  The
difference in (2) between tools like TeX and word processors is
small.  (It took me three years to notice and wonder about it.)
Soon, it will be negligible or non-existent.  TeX will then
disappear, except perhaps as an intermediate form, and, of
course, for those die-hards who, having learned this baroque
language, will continue in its use. 

Russell