6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Darryl "NOT Ug" Lee) (05/28/91)
i downloaded something from a local bbs called mminit. It was a stuffed init with the claim that it "fixes an error in the roms on LC's and 2si's..." later i read something about mminit fixing an error in the memory manager... can anybody [dis?]confirm any of the above claims? what exactly does this thing do, and should i even have it near my system folder? running 6.0.7, on a 5/40 machine, i haven't noticed any more crashes than usual (which is still a lot, w/o a fpu and always trying out new downloads...) anyways, was just wondering--please e-mail responses, and i'll post something later, maybe... --Darryl Lee 6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) (05/29/91)
6600dayl@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Darryl "NOT Ug" Lee) writes: |i downloaded something from a local bbs called mminit. It was a |stuffed init with the claim that it "fixes an error in the roms on |LC's and 2si's..." | |what exactly does this thing do, and should i even have it near my |system folder? IF this init is what it says, it still will not fix all the right bugs. These bugs are fixed in System 7 correctly. In addition, the bugs it does fix occur only ultra-rarely. You won't notice any speedup or fewer crashes 99% of the time. IF it is NOT what it says, well, you don't want to run it anyway. Party Line is to trash it, and get the right fixes in System 7.
chuck@brain.UUCP (Chuck Shotton) (05/30/91)
In article <53421@apple.Apple.COM>, bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) writes: > > Party Line is to trash it, and get the right fixes in System 7. > Suppose, heaven forbid, someone doesn't want to run System 7? Is Apple going to "fix" MMInit so poor, misguided System 6 users can have a fix to the fix for buggy ROM code? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Shotton Internet: cshotton@girch1.med.uth.tmc.edu "Your silly quote here." UUCP: ...!buster!brain!chuck
bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) (05/31/91)
I wrote: |> Party Line is to trash it, and get the right fixes in System 7. Chuck Shotton replies: |Suppose, heaven forbid, someone doesn't want to run System 7? Is Apple going |to "fix" MMInit so poor, misguided System 6 users can have a fix to the fix |for buggy ROM code? First, try to understand the problem: The bugs in question do not cause crashes, but only slow pointer allocations down under certain obscure circumstances. I think Prograph was the only program known to cause this problem to manifest. The average user would never run into this bug, and therefore would not benefit from the fixes. (It's not like your Mac would run 20% faster.) MMInit also eats a lot of system heap (over 5k), and god forbid another init conflicted with it! When The-Corporate-Entity-Apple weighed the issue, they saw that the benefits to users were practically non-existant, so MMInit has never been officially released. Some hacker leaked it to the net a few months back, and it's probably floating around somewhere. Similar corrections are in System 7.0, if you should want to run that. They've been extensively tested there, with a wide variety of programs. You might also start a movement to get the functionality incorporated into the forthcoming system 6.0.8. I tried the patch, and it didn't make any difference, even with my most memory-flogging apps (Lisp and a multi-dimensional spreadsheet I support). I therefore removed the patch from 6.0.7, and left it at that. Obviously, you should decide for yourself if you want to run it, and test it out carefully before using it. (Also, make sure it isn't a virus in disguise!) But the party line is still NOT to use it, because it almost certainly won't make your mac faster or crash less often, and because who needs another init eating your memory? bill coderre just trying to help you understand