gupthaba@aludra.usc.edu (Suresha Guptha B. A) (09/11/90)
Hi there, I have a problem using apple file exchange. Whenever I insert a disk with MS DOS format, apple file exchange won't recognize the disk format. However if I use the same disk with an IBM, I have no problem in reading the contents of that disk. Any help in this matter would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. - Suresh suresh@macpost.caltech.edu gsb@bach.caltech.edu
russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) (09/11/90)
In article <11907@chaph.usc.edu> gupthaba@aludra.usc.edu (Suresha Guptha B. A) writes: >Hi there, > I have a problem using apple file exchange. Whenever I insert a disk >with MS DOS format, apple file exchange won't recognize the disk format. >However if I use the same disk with an IBM, I have no problem in reading the >contents of that disk. Any help in this matter would be highly appreciated. My guess would be that you have a computer lacking a SuperDrive (FDHD). The Superdrive is included with the Mac IIx, IIcx, IIci, SE/30, and IIfx. It is not included with the Mac Plus or Mac II, and newer SEs have it.
philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) (09/12/90)
In article <1990Sep10.211033.15098@eng.umd.edu>, russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes: > In article <11907@chaph.usc.edu> gupthaba@aludra.usc.edu (Suresha Guptha B. A) writes: > >Hi there, > > I have a problem using apple file exchange. Whenever I insert a disk > >with MS DOS format, apple file exchange won't recognize the disk format. > >However if I use the same disk with an IBM, I have no problem in reading the > >contents of that disk. Any help in this matter would be highly appreciated. > > My guess would be that you have a computer lacking a SuperDrive (FDHD). > The Superdrive is included with the Mac IIx, IIcx, IIci, SE/30, and IIfx. It > is not included with the Mac Plus or Mac II, and newer SEs have it. Another possibility: most IBM clones will allow you to format a HD diskette as 360K or 720K. Apple File Exchange will refuse to accept that such a diskette can be formatted at anything less than 1.4M. Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
marc@Apple.COM (Mark Dawson) (09/12/90)
In article <1990Sep11.175832.13343@Neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@pescadero.stanford.edu writes: >In article <1990Sep10.211033.15098@eng.umd.edu>, russotto@eng.umd.edu >(Matthew T. Russotto) writes: >> In article <11907@chaph.usc.edu> gupthaba@aludra.usc.edu (Suresha >Guptha B. A) writes: >> >Hi there, >> > I have a problem using apple file exchange. Whenever I insert a disk >> >with MS DOS format, apple file exchange won't recognize the disk format. >> >However if I use the same disk with an IBM, I have no problem in >reading the >> >contents of that disk. Any help in this matter would be highly appreciated. >> >> My guess would be that you have a computer lacking a SuperDrive (FDHD). >> The Superdrive is included with the Mac IIx, IIcx, IIci, SE/30, and IIfx. It >> is not included with the Mac Plus or Mac II, and newer SEs have it. This would be my guess also. >Another possibility: most IBM clones will allow you to format a HD diskette >as 360K or 720K. Apple File Exchange will refuse to accept that such a >diskette can be formatted at anything less than 1.4M. > I don't know if AFE can read 360K disks, but I've never had any trouble using AFE on 720K 3.5" disks (of course, that was about 1 1/2 yrs ago, but I can't believe that feature would have been deleted). Mark -- --------------------------------- Mark Dawson Service Diagnostic Engineering AppleLink: Dawson.M Apple says what it says; I say what I say. We're different ---------------------------------
userDJMA@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (Douglas James Martin) (09/13/90)
In article <44727@apple.Apple.COM>, marc@Apple.COM (Mark Dawson) writes: >> >I don't know if AFE can read 360K disks, but I've never had any trouble using >AFE on 720K 3.5" disks (of course, that was about 1 1/2 yrs ago, but I can't >believe that feature would have been deleted). > >Mark > You misunderstood slightly, I think. HD diskettes have an extra hole opposite the write-protect hole. If you want to read a disk in a Superdrive (as well as many but not all other HD drives), the format MUST correspond to the presence/absence of the hole (i.e. 1.44 Meg format is required if you have the hole, it is forbidden if you don't). The problem arises if you format a disk using a drive that does not have this requirement and you do something like format a HD disk for 720K or a DD disk for 1.44Meg -- your Superdrive won't read it because the disk format doesn't correspond to the presence/absence of the hole. Douglas Martin Printing Services University of Alberta 1-403-492-4246 (work) 1-403-439-1939 (home)
marc@Apple.COM (Mark Dawson) (09/13/90)
In article <1325@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA> userDJMA@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (Douglas James Martin) writes: >In article <44727@apple.Apple.COM>, marc@Apple.COM (Mark Dawson) writes: >>> >>I don't know if AFE can read 360K disks, but I've never had any trouble using >>AFE on 720K 3.5" disks (of course, that was about 1 1/2 yrs ago, but I can't >>believe that feature would have been deleted). >> >>Mark >> >You misunderstood slightly, I think. >HD diskettes have an extra hole opposite the write-protect hole. >If you want to read a disk in a Superdrive (as well as many but >not all other HD drives), the format MUST correspond to the >presence/absence of the hole (i.e. 1.44 Meg format is required >if you have the hole, it is forbidden if you don't). The problem >arises if you format a disk using a drive that does not have this >requirement and you do something like format a HD disk for 720K >or a DD disk for 1.44Meg -- your Superdrive won't read it because >the disk format doesn't correspond to the presence/absence of the >hole. > Well, I wasn't using a SuperDrive to read the disks, I was using a regular "800K" Mac drive; I've never tried to use a 720K formatted HD diskette in a SuperDrive (that I remember). FYI I was using Kennect's Rapport (I developed the Mac software/drivers for it) to be able to read the 720K format on the regular drives (that was 1 1/2yrs ago, so my memory is a little hazy...). Mark -- --------------------------------- Mark Dawson Service Diagnostic Engineering AppleLink: Dawson.M Apple says what it says; I say what I say. We're different ---------------------------------
jeff@hpspdra.HP.COM (Jeff Gibson) (09/13/90)
Being really cheap (and broke, to boot), I'm wondering if there is any possible way to read DOS formatted, 720K floppies in my standard, MAC+ internal 800K drive without having to dish out $250 for an external FDHD disk drive. From the gist of this notestring, I sense that it might be possible with some software, etc. I would especially like to be able to transfer binary files, as well as some Ascii stuff, from my PC at work to my MAC at home. Am I really off base here, or is there some possible approach? Thanks- Jeff Gibson HP Palo Alto, CA email jeff@hpspdra.HP.COM
marc@Apple.COM (Mark Dawson) (09/14/90)
In article <21480005@hpspdra.HP.COM> jeff@hpspdra.HP.COM (Jeff Gibson) writes: > >Being really cheap (and broke, to boot), I'm wondering if there is any >possible way to read DOS formatted, 720K floppies in my standard, MAC+ >internal 800K drive without having to dish out $250 for an external FDHD >disk drive. > >From the gist of this notestring, I sense that it might be possible with >some software, etc. I would especially like to be able to transfer >binary files, as well as some Ascii stuff, from my PC at work to my MAC >at home. > >Am I really off base here, or is there some possible approach? > > I think you're a little off base. First, you can't connect a FDHD drive to a Mac+, and read FDHD disks (or 720K IBM disks)--you need to be using a SWIM (Super Wozniak Integrated Machine or Sanders-Wozniak Integrated Machine <depends on your Apple politics>) chip to do this, and the MAC+ doesn't have one (and I don't think you can upgrade to one). There is a product, "Rapport" (Kennect, Inc.) that attaches to the disk port at the back of your Mac, and DOES allow you to read 720K disks in your Mac+ internal drive. I believe it sells for $200-$250 (maybe less?). Mark -- --------------------------------- Mark Dawson Service Diagnostic Engineering AppleLink: Dawson.M Apple says what it says; I say what I say. We're different ---------------------------------
hnewstrom@x102c.harris-atd.com (Harvey Newstrom) (10/30/90)
I know how to use Apple File Exchange to read disks from DOS, Apple II, and ProDOS into my Mac. Are there any other disk exchange formats available? If so, where can I find them? If not, is there any way to read the disk directly, sector by sector, and then try to write my own? Specifically, I need to read 800K disks produced by a Panasonic WordProcessor machine. It has a built in printer, but no printer port and no means to out put data. It does store data on 800K disks, but they are not in any format recognized by the Apple File Exchange. __ Harvey Newstrom hnewstrom@x102c.ess.harris.com uunet!x102c!hnewstrom (407)727-5176 FAX:(407)727-5118 P.O.Box 37; M/S 15/8873; Melbourne, FL 32902
carsup@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Fisher Library support) (11/06/90)
In article <4683@trantor.harris-atd.com> hnewstrom@x102c.ess.harris.com (Harvey Newstrom) writes: >I know how to use Apple File Exchange to read disks from DOS, Apple II, and >ProDOS into my Mac. Are there any other disk exchange formats available? >If so, where can I find them? If not, is there any way to read the disk >directly, sector by sector, and then try to write my own? > >Specifically, I need to read 800K disks produced by a Panasonic WordProcessor >machine. It has a built in printer, but no printer port and no means to >out put data. It does store data on 800K disks, but they are not in any >format recognized by the Apple File Exchange. >__ >Harvey Newstrom hnewstrom@x102c.ess.harris.com uunet!x102c!hnewstrom >(407)727-5176 FAX:(407)727-5118 P.O.Box 37; M/S 15/8873; Melbourne, FL 32902 When you say 800K, do you merely mean 3.5" DD? Just wondering if it is DOS readable. Otherwise, if it is of a proprietory format, may I suggest you print the files out, scan them into mac readable (readible?) files, and then sell the Panasonic WP. I presume there are *no* output ports whatsoever on the WP? **** My employers ignore me, I'm on my own when I speak out in public **** Norton Chia || My address is carsup@extro.ucc.su.oz.au Micro Support || "When are they going to put in built-in spell-chequers" *******************************************************************************
toepke@cis.ohio-state.edu (kevin michael toepke) (04/25/91)
I have a friend that just converted from the IBM world to the Mac world Just one problem. He has some text files on MS-DOS disks that she *NEEDS*. Enter me. I have a Mac SE with a superdirve and Apple File exchange. The problem. When I insert a disk formatted by DOS 2.1 when I'm in AFC I get the dialog box: /--------------------------------------------\ I /---\ Apple File Exchange cannot I I | | read this disk. Do you want to I I \---/ initialize it? I I I I * 400k /-----------------------\ I I * 800k | Macintosh | I I * 720k | MS-DOS | I I | ProDOS | I I \-----------------------/ I I I I Initialize Eject I \--------------------------------------------/ My question. Am I doing anything wrong, or is it a problem/incompatability with AFC/DOS2.1. E-mail will be appreciated. I will summarize if I get enough responses, requests for info. Thanks - CRASH -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I toepke@cis.ohio-state.edu I I am always in haste, but never in I I snail mail I a hurry I I 110 West 11th, room 825 I This is your brain :-) I
lurifax@diku.dk (Michael Brian Moustgaard) (06/27/91)
Hello everybody I`m new in the Mac-world, and have just heard about Apple File Exchange. What is it, can it put the PC-files in a Apple readable format ? If not how can it be done ? Zillion thanks in advance, Michael (lurifax@freja.diku.dk)