[comp.sys.mac.wanted] Pier-to-Pier File Transfer Wanted

derosa@motcid.UUCP (John DeRosa) (07/21/90)

I am part of a very large wide area network (WAN) that
has Macs in various parts of the world.  Because of 
some corporate dictates, AppleTalk is not allowed to 
leave our local (fairly large) LAN.  All other IP
traffic is allowed.  In fact, we can use TelNet to 
access and FTP to/from any of our computer systems in
the world.  

Via other computer hosts, we have been able to send files
to remote Macintosh LAN's by binhex'ing the file and then
ftp up to a common host, then ftp'ing it down again, followed
by a un-binhex.  Whew.  This works but is a bit much for
most of my users to put up with.

What I really want to do is be able to transfer files 
directly.  I am currently using the BYU version of 
NCSA TelNet that allows ftp sessions from one mac to 
another.  One mac must be running the BYU version of TelNet
while the other can be running any version of TelNet.
This has worked but appears "buggy".

The single constant bug I am running into is as follows.
Start the ftp session, use bin to switch to binary mode,
then do an ls to see where I am (which is suppose to switch
back to ascii mode).  The ls does not work at that point
and most other commands appear to be corrupted from 
then on.

If I do the ls first, then the bin, the following file
transfer appears to work fine.  Sometimes the file arrives
as 0K, which may be caused by macbinary not being enabled.
I do not have enough experience yet to determine an accurate
reliable way to transfer files with BYU TelNet.

Worse yet, if I get in this corrupt mode, it appears that
it requires restarting telnet on both macs to get going again.
This can be a real problem if the other mac is 12 time zones
away.

I have heard of commercial versions of TelNet that have 
ftp capability (TCP Connect).  Does anyone have info on
this package or others that may be available?

Another approach we are following is utilizing Microsoft Mail
coupled with Gator-Mail by Cayman Systems.  Gator-Mail is
an smtp gateway for MS Mail.  This allows us to mail to 
the vast majority of the hosts in our WAN.  Gator-Mail also
supports enclosures (via uuencode and uudecode) that are
automatically encoded, sent and decoded!  Once we get this
mail tool running on the other remote Mac systems, we can
just mail them files as enclosures (via other mail hosts).
This will be as transparent a file transfer as any for my
users.

Thanks for any information or help.
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nolan@tssi.UUCP (Michael Nolan) (07/23/90)

Will this file transfer methodology be approved by the longshoremen's union?

barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) (07/24/90)

In article <4270@crystal9.UUCP> derosa@motcid.UUCP (John DeRosa) writes:

>   I have heard of commercial versions of TelNet that have 
>   ftp capability (TCP Connect).  Does anyone have info on
>   this package or others that may be available?

Intercon (TCP/Connect II)  has a FTP menu that brings up a Panel like the
Font/DA mover. You click on the file(s), set the ASCII/Binary
MacBinary switches, and click copy. 

You can browse the remote directory using this panel, and copy either
direction. I like the interface a lot.
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Bruce G. Barnett	barnett@crd.ge.com	uunet!crdgw1!barnett