[comp.sys.mac.wanted] HyperCard 2.0

bdest@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Benoit Desjardins) (07/28/90)

Many of you obviously seem to have a copy of Hypercard 2.0. Would
someone be kind enough to E-Mail me a stuffed and binhexed copy of the
latest version (not to this list, but to my personnal E-Mail address?
 
					Benoit Desjardins
					benoit@speedy.cs.pitt.edu

mennella@irst.UUCP (Giuseppe Mennella) (09/07/90)

Is HyperCard 2.0 available by ftp from apple.com or another
site? ........yes! What's the complete path where find it?

Thanks in advance

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jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun) (09/08/90)

The decision has been made here not to make HyperCard 2.0 available via
ftp.  Neither will it be available for downloading on any of the commercial
online services.

I very much regret the inconvenience this will cause many of you and the
delay in getting 2.0 into your hands.

None of us who are regular readers of this newsgroup had anything to do
with the decision.  We're just the engineers...

Kevin Calhoun
Software engineer
Apple Computer

Scott D. Camp <Q8N@psuvm.psu.edu> (09/09/90)

In article <44630@apple.Apple.COM>, jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun) says:
>
>The decision has been made here not to make HyperCard 2.0 available via
>ftp.  Neither will it be available for downloading on any of the commercial
>online services.
>
>delay in getting 2.0 into your hands.
>
>None of us who are regular readers of this newsgroup had anything to do
>with the decision.  We're just the engineers...
>
>Kevin Calhoun
>Software engineer
>Apple Computer

I certainly don't want to flame any of the Apple employees who spend their
own time answering questions and providing information on the net.

As Kevin notes, this decision was not made by any of that group of
individuals.  However, I must say that I am disappointed with this decision
on the part of Apple.  I won't die having to wait until a copy of 2.0 makes
its way to my university support group, and I have to wait a day or two
until they get around to copying it for me.

However, it would have been much nicer had I not had to pursue this route.
One of the reasons I was excited about Apple releasing HC 2.0 over the net,
and I know this sounds corny, was because it was a service they were
extending to at least some of their users.  And as many people have pointed
out in many forums, Apple is not noted for the service they provide to
users who are not Fortune 500 corporations.

Now, it may be that Apple decided it was too expensive for them to use some
of their resources to make HyperCard available to an admittedly small group
of net users.  I don't know.  However, I would like to know.

So, my request to Apple would be to give us an explanation for why this
scheme was abandoned.  In reality, this request is directed to those
employees at Apple who may know why this project was abandoned.  Maybe if
the official explanation could be posted, then we won't spend a lot of time
flaming Apple for not providing HC 2.0 via ftp.

I know that I for one will reserve my opinions on this action until I
obtain more information.

Thank you to anyone at Apple who is listening.  Again, none of this is
intended to be a flame of either Apple the corporation or any individuals
at Apple.

Scott D.  Camp Q8N@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
The Pennsylvania State University
305 Oswald Tower
University Park, PA 16802 814-863-0121

emery@linus.mitre.org (David Emery) (09/10/90)

It would be useful to know where within Apple we should send our cards
and letters of protest.  We'll save our bullets for them...
				dave emery
				emery@aries.mitre.org