ed@unisoft.UUCP (01/14/84)
_m_t _X_i_n_u _M_a_n_a_g_e_m_e_n_t _o_f _t_h_e _4._2_B_S_D _B_u_g _L_i_s_t
In cooperation with the Computer Systems Research Group (CSRG) of
the University of California at Berkeley, _m_t _X_i_n_u will manage the
4.2BSD Bug List as a service to the UNIX (trademark of Bell La-
boratories) community. What we will do, similar to a moderated
newsgroup on the network, are the following. All of this materi-
al will be available on a equal basis, in a timely manner, to all
parties, subject only to AT&T license restrictions.
1. Collect and edit the reports of bugs in the 4.2 BSD
system. We will not censor any submittals; rather we
will edit to eliminate duplicates and produce manage-
able documentation of the bug reports. This documenta-
tion will be available publically, and will be distri-
buted over all of the appropriate networks. No bug
fixes of any kind will be included in this publically
distributed document.
2. Collect and edit, in the same manner, proposed fixes
for the reported bugs. These reported fixes will be
available to anyone who has a verified source license
at a nominal handling charge. There will be a one-time
charge for verifying the license, and a small charge
for making a tape whenever one is requested. Proposed
fixes will not be available over the network, at least
not in publically-readable places. NO WARRANTY, EX-
PRESSED OR IMPLIED, IS GIVEN THAT ANY BUG FIXES ARE
CORRECT. The fixes included will be those suggested by
the persons reporting the bugs, all of whom will be
suitably identified.
There will be no charge for this service, except for the handling
fees for verifying licenses and making tapes of the proposed
fixes.
It may be possible in the future for _m_t _X_i_n_u and/or CSRG to make
fixed modules available. Depending on the source of these fixed
modules, there may or may not be a charge for this service beyond
a nominal handling fee. No commitment is made to provide updated
modules.
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Ed Gould
ucbvax!mtxinu!edglc@akgua.UUCP (01/15/84)
An interesting project and the "ground rules" seem equitable at
first reading. If this project turns out well and the centralized
bug reporting and fix distribution works, all of us in net-land
should be properly grateful to those who have taken it on.
I am unable to speak in any manner for AT&T on its "official"
policy regarding the information collected by mt Xinu. However, as
a user of uucp, I sincerely hope that the proper support group
within AT&T takes note of mt Xinu's efforts and uses the
information to the benefit of all the USG system users.
Lindsay Cleveland (...{ihnp4|mhux?|clyde}!akgua!glc)
AT&T Technologies/Bell Laboratories ... Atlanta, Ga
(404) 447-3909 ... Cornet 583-3909mark@umcp-cs.UUCP (01/16/84)
Sounds like this might be a reasonable proposal. But how reasonable
are the tape handling fees? Are we talking the $50 it takes
to get the Tex tape or the $750 for the 4.2 tape?
By the way, I LOVE the name mt Xinu, and their ads which say:
"We know Unix forwards and backwards."
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Mark Weiser
UUCP: {seismo,allegra,brl-bmd}!umcp-cs!mark
CSNet: mark@umcp-cs ARPA: mark@marylandmarka@uo-vax1.UUCP (01/18/84)
#R:unisoft:-19300:uo-vax1:2000004:000:688
uo-vax1!marka Jan 16 20:47:00 1984
I personally don't think I like the idea. I am expected to be a full-time
student and still (with one other person) maintain 2 Vaxen. I like being
able to look at net.bugs and see new bug reports, often times with fixes
right there. I don't have the TIME to go through channels such as those
being created. We run 4.1 now, but I smell 4.2 in the near future, since
some people seem to think that it will solve all our problems.
I know comments weren't being solicited, just thought I'd let you know
how I felt about it. (Though I do see some good in it, it just won't
do anything to make my life easier.)
Mark Aitken
University of Oregon
{hp-pcd,hp-cvd,tektronix}!uoregon!marka