ed@unisoft.UUCP (01/14/84)
_m_t _X_i_n_u _M_a_n_a_g_e_m_e_n_t _o_f _t_h_e _4._2_B_S_D _B_u_g _L_i_s_t In cooperation with the Computer Systems Research Group (CSRG) of the University of California at Berkeley, _m_t _X_i_n_u will manage the 4.2BSD Bug List as a service to the UNIX (trademark of Bell La- boratories) community. What we will do, similar to a moderated newsgroup on the network, are the following. All of this materi- al will be available on a equal basis, in a timely manner, to all parties, subject only to AT&T license restrictions. 1. Collect and edit the reports of bugs in the 4.2 BSD system. We will not censor any submittals; rather we will edit to eliminate duplicates and produce manage- able documentation of the bug reports. This documenta- tion will be available publically, and will be distri- buted over all of the appropriate networks. No bug fixes of any kind will be included in this publically distributed document. 2. Collect and edit, in the same manner, proposed fixes for the reported bugs. These reported fixes will be available to anyone who has a verified source license at a nominal handling charge. There will be a one-time charge for verifying the license, and a small charge for making a tape whenever one is requested. Proposed fixes will not be available over the network, at least not in publically-readable places. NO WARRANTY, EX- PRESSED OR IMPLIED, IS GIVEN THAT ANY BUG FIXES ARE CORRECT. The fixes included will be those suggested by the persons reporting the bugs, all of whom will be suitably identified. There will be no charge for this service, except for the handling fees for verifying licenses and making tapes of the proposed fixes. It may be possible in the future for _m_t _X_i_n_u and/or CSRG to make fixed modules available. Depending on the source of these fixed modules, there may or may not be a charge for this service beyond a nominal handling fee. No commitment is made to provide updated modules. -- Ed Gould ucbvax!mtxinu!ed
glc@akgua.UUCP (01/15/84)
An interesting project and the "ground rules" seem equitable at first reading. If this project turns out well and the centralized bug reporting and fix distribution works, all of us in net-land should be properly grateful to those who have taken it on. I am unable to speak in any manner for AT&T on its "official" policy regarding the information collected by mt Xinu. However, as a user of uucp, I sincerely hope that the proper support group within AT&T takes note of mt Xinu's efforts and uses the information to the benefit of all the USG system users. Lindsay Cleveland (...{ihnp4|mhux?|clyde}!akgua!glc) AT&T Technologies/Bell Laboratories ... Atlanta, Ga (404) 447-3909 ... Cornet 583-3909
mark@umcp-cs.UUCP (01/16/84)
Sounds like this might be a reasonable proposal. But how reasonable are the tape handling fees? Are we talking the $50 it takes to get the Tex tape or the $750 for the 4.2 tape? By the way, I LOVE the name mt Xinu, and their ads which say: "We know Unix forwards and backwards." -- Mark Weiser UUCP: {seismo,allegra,brl-bmd}!umcp-cs!mark CSNet: mark@umcp-cs ARPA: mark@maryland
marka@uo-vax1.UUCP (01/18/84)
#R:unisoft:-19300:uo-vax1:2000004:000:688 uo-vax1!marka Jan 16 20:47:00 1984 I personally don't think I like the idea. I am expected to be a full-time student and still (with one other person) maintain 2 Vaxen. I like being able to look at net.bugs and see new bug reports, often times with fixes right there. I don't have the TIME to go through channels such as those being created. We run 4.1 now, but I smell 4.2 in the near future, since some people seem to think that it will solve all our problems. I know comments weren't being solicited, just thought I'd let you know how I felt about it. (Though I do see some good in it, it just won't do anything to make my life easier.) Mark Aitken University of Oregon {hp-pcd,hp-cvd,tektronix}!uoregon!marka