[comp.sys.mac.wanted] My mac is infected -- what to do?

GFX@psuvm.psu.edu (03/05/91)

My older son has tried a game on my machine. He installed his own system file
on my hard drive and restarted the mac, thus defeating Gatekeeper and GK Aid.

Here are a few facts:

             o the virus interacts with Gatekeeper aid. If I do not put GK Aid
               on my drive, there are very few sides effects, so far. IF GK Aid
               is in, I'll get the "Desktop needs to be rebuilt" message each
               time I boot, or re-enters the Finder.

             o the virus is undetectable by Disinfectant 2.4  .  I get, however
               several warnings of either kind: (a) "the resource fork is
               damaged or in an unknown format..."; (b) "not enough memory to
               check."  10 files trigger either message.

             o Gatekeeper doesn't appear to notice anything

             o For at least one application (Disinfectant), I cannot change the
               application size in the Get Info window. When I close the window
               I get an error [-199]  Other applications are unaffected.

             o If I use MacSnoop or resEdit to look into the desktop, I get an
               error [-49] and a message tells me that the file is already
               opened with write permission

             o If GK Aid is in my system folder and I rebuild the desktop,
               trying to look into the desktop is likely to crash my machine.

             o If GK Aid is in my system, at least three applications are
               useless -- I get error [-199] if I doubleclick or otherwise
               activate them.

I'd appreciate any help in getting rid of this thing, or advice in how to
manage the infection. My back-up files appear to have been infected. I do
not fear much for the applications, but some documents are very important.

I use a IIci 8/105 (Rodime's Cobra) with 6.1.5 / 6.0.5

Thanks,
          Stephane

levin@BBN.COM (Joel B Levin) (03/06/91)

In article <91064.094356GFX@psuvm.psu.edu> you write:
|             o the virus interacts with Gatekeeper aid. If I do not put GK Aid
|               on my drive, there are very few sides effects, so far. IF GK Aid
|               is in, I'll get the "Desktop needs to be rebuilt" message each
|               time I boot, or re-enters the Finder.
|
|             o the virus is undetectable by Disinfectant 2.4  .  I get, however
|               several warnings of either kind: (a) "the resource fork is
|               damaged or in an unknown format..."; (b) "not enough memory to
|               check."  10 files trigger either message.
|
|             o For at least one application (Disinfectant), I cannot change the
|               application size in the Get Info window. When I close the window
|               I get an error [-199]  Other applications are unaffected.
|
|             o If I use MacSnoop or resEdit to look into the desktop, I get an
|               error [-49] and a message tells me that the file is already
|               opened with write permission

These problems indicate that the first thing you have to do is reboot
WITHOUT Multifinder.  Then you can look at the desktop; then
Disinfectant can run properly (and you may need to capture a fresh
copy, if it detects problems within itself).

Scanning and especially disinfecting under Multifinder leads to
questionable results, in any case.  See the instructions in
Disinfectant's help window.

	/JBL
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pandy@vipunen.hut.fi (Pandy Holmberg) (03/08/91)

In article <91064.094356GFX@psuvm.psu.edu> GFX@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

 	o the virus interacts with Gatekeeper aid. If I do not put GK Aid
 	  on my drive, there are very few sides effects, so far. IF GK Aid
 	  is in, I'll get the "Desktop needs to be rebuilt" message each
	  time I boot, or re-enters the Finder.

	o the virus is undetectable by Disinfectant 2.4  .  I get, however
	  several warnings of either kind: (a) "the resource fork is
	  damaged or in an unknown format..."; (b) "not enough memory to
	  check."  10 files trigger either message.

	o Gatekeeper doesn't appear to notice anything

What do you mean by this?? GateKeeper is only supposed to veto any editing
attempts made on files you have told it to do so with.

	o For at least one application (Disinfectant), I cannot change the
	  application size in the Get Info window. When I close the window
	  I get an error [-199]  Other applications are unaffected.

This is normal. You are not supposed to be able to change the size of
Disinfectant for obvious reasons.

	o If I use MacSnoop or resEdit to look into the desktop, I get an
	  error [-49] and a message tells me that the file is already
	  opened with write permission

The desktop file is always busy. (I might be misstaken. Could be that it
isn't under Finder.)

	o If GK Aid is in my system folder and I rebuild the desktop,
	  trying to look into the desktop is likely to crash my machine.

	o If GK Aid is in my system, at least three applications are
	  useless -- I get error [-199] if I doubleclick or otherwise
	  activate them.

   I'd appreciate any help in getting rid of this thing, or advice in how to
   manage the infection. My back-up files appear to have been infected. I do
   not fear much for the applications, but some documents are very important.

   I use a IIci 8/105 (Rodime's Cobra) with 6.1.5 / 6.0.5

   Thanks,
	     Stephane

I don't think the main problem is a virus here. I would start by removing the
system, finder & multifinder files and replace them with uninfected backup
copies (preferably with system 6.0.7.). After that I would disinfect all
floppies (preferably on another "clean" Mac) and the hard disk.

Error -199 means "Map inconsistent with operation". This means that the
data in some of your files OR the directory information might have been
damaged. If this is the case you'll have to recover all possible files
using some disk aid tool, e.g. DiskAid or 1st Aid, copy them to floppies
and initialize your hard disk.

--
                    Tsaukki says
                              Pandy
 
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st891456@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Phil Marden) (03/08/91)

You should probably send E-mail to the the author of disinfectant at Northwestern. I believe the address is in the "about" box.