[comp.sys.mac.wanted] Mac SE For Sale

ftdkl@acad3.fai.alaska.edu (LaSota Daniel K) (08/16/90)

Hello,
I am trying to sell a spring 1988 Macintosh SE here are the specs:
4 MB's RAM
2 Internal 800 K disk drives
1 Internal 30 MB Seagate HD ~40 ms access time
1 Imagewriter II printer
1 Mach 2 FORTH Interpreter/Compiler Development System
1 Strategic Conquest Game (Won't work on my new IIci)
Has the basics for software etc.
Price: $2600
Email me or call (907)457-3921
Thank you

Drako@cup.portal.com (Chris Del Grande) (09/26/90)

I have the following Macintosh equipment for sale:

        - Macintosh SE w/1 Meg. RAM
        - 2 internal 800k floppies
        - 20 Megabyte CRATE Technologies external hard disk 
                (filled with free/shareware if desired)
        - Polaroid CP-50 circular polarizing filter for monitor
        - Curtis Clip copy holder

All hardware has been pampered and in great condition.
Yours for $1850.
If interested contact:

Drako@cup.portal.com 
        -or-
Chris Del Grande  (408)280-1232

jsuker@orion.oac.uci.edu (Johnathan Suker) (10/05/90)

	Tuition is due, or actually is past due, and I need some money
so it looks like I am having to sell my Mac to pay for school.

	Mac SE
	2 800K drives
	4MB memory
	Apple Extended Keyboard

	$1100.00

	The Mac is in perfect working order (like new, seriously) and the only
reason I am selling it is I need the money for school (unfortunately its worth
more than my car and I need my car to drive to school).

ajcolin@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ari J. Colin) (10/16/90)

Macintosh SE w/ 2.5 Meg RAM 80ns chips
20 Meg internal HD full of software
Comes with original box and all system software and manuals
Pampered, and in great condition.

$1500   
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ajcolin@rodan.acs.syr.edu	internet
(315) 423-0608			ma Bell

) (10/27/90)

     Now everyone are comparing the PRICESE of *NEW* Mac Classic and Mac SE wit
hout thinking about what Mac SE has that *NEW* Mac Classic doesn't have.  Tell
you what, if you check the *NEW* Mac Classic carefully, you will know that the
*NEW* Mac Classic DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPANSION SLOT, which the Mac SE has!  You c
an do many things with that expansion slot, like put an acclerator board ....et
c.  As matter of fact, the *NEW* Mac Classic is just ALMOST like the Mac Plus..
..  (I just hate to see people give stupid offers for buying a Mac SE from some
one with prices like $200, $800, $900.....  What a comedian......)

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UD169430@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Mike Aos) (10/28/90)

In article <90299.205100CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu>, Me! <CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>     Now everyone are comparing the PRICESE of *NEW* Mac Classic and Mac SE
>wit
>hout thinking about what Mac SE has that *NEW* Mac Classic doesn't have.  Tell
>you what, if you check the *NEW* Mac Classic carefully, you will know that the
>*NEW* Mac Classic DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPANSION SLOT, which the Mac SE has!  You
>c
>an do many things with that expansion slot, like put an acclerator board
>....et
>c.  As matter of fact, the *NEW* Mac Classic is just ALMOST like the Mac
>Plus..
>..  (I just hate to see people give stupid offers for buying a Mac SE from
>some
>one with prices like $200, $800, $900.....  What a comedian......)
>
> :<)= :/) '-) P-) ;-) :-" :-v :-V :-W :-r<:-O :-T :-D :-[ =|:-)= 7:) :-# :-i
> :-o #:-o |-( :^) :-[#] (:-$ (:-&
> -) +<:-| [0-) (:-|K- ||*( ||*)        \/~              Chih-Chuan Chu (James)
> (:>-< /= - > ? (O--<                 (@ @)     BitNet: CCC105@PSUVM
> ?-( *:* *:** <:-)<<|                   %     InterNet: CCC105@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
> <&&> < >< B|^2B [:-)] ..---..          O        Phone: (717) 586-7580
> (:-( (:^( :<) -(=) &:-) &:-) @:-)
> :/i :-I :-x :-> :-( :-c :-< :-| :-? <:>== :*) :-8 (:-) <:-) :_) B-) 8-) #:-)
I realize these prices are old, but I would think they have gone DOWN instead
of up.
                      HIGHER EDUCATION PURCHASE PROGRAM
                   Individual Purchase Option Product List
             Prices are for full-time faculty, staff and students.


                              September 15, 1990

Product Description                                             IPO Price

MACINTOSH SYSTEMS
Keyboard sold separately from Macintosh SE unless noted.
Keyboard and Monitor and Video Card sold separately from Macintosh II.

M5880     Macintosh Plus w/Keyboard, 1 Mb RAM ...................  649.00

M5350     Macintosh Portable..................................... 3023.00
M5351     Macintosh Portable Hard Drive 40....................... 3464.00

M0029LL/A Macintosh SE CPU....................................... 1024.00
M5084/D   Macintosh SE CPU w/Apple Keyboard...................... 1114.00
M0028LL/A Macintosh SE Hard Disk 20 CPU.......................... 1069.00
M0031LL/A Macintosh SE Hard Disk 40 CPU (2Mb).................... 1270.00
M5335/A   Macintosh SE Hard Disk 40 CPU w/Apple Keyboard......... 1360.00

M5392     Macintosh SE/30 CPU  1Mb .............................. 1750.00
M5390     Macintosh SE/30 Hard Disk 40 CPU  1Mb ................. 2055.00
M5361     Macintosh SE/30 Hard Disk 80 CPU (4Mb)................. 2787.00

M5660     Macintosh IIcx CPU 1Mb ................................ 2731.00
M5610     Macintosh IIcx Hard Disk 40 CPU 1Mb.................... 3141.00
M5680     Macintosh IIcx Hard Disk 80 CPU (4Mb).................. 3843.00

M5790     Macintosh IIx CPU 1Mb.................................. 3082.00
M5810     Macintosh IIx Hard Disk 40 CPU 1Mb..................... 3492.00
M5830     Macintosh IIx Hard Disk 80 CPU (4Mb)................... 4194.00
M5860     Macintosh IIx Hard Disk 160 CPU (4Mb).................. 4837.00

M5710LL/A Macintosh IIci......................................... 3824.00
M5715LL/A Macintosh IIci Hard Disk 40............................ 4251.00
M5740LL/A Macintosh IIci Hard Disk 80 (4Mb)...................... 4068.00

B0323LL/A Macintosh Plus & ImageWriter II Bundle.................  949.00

MACINTOSH SE/II KEYBOARDS

M0116     Apple Keyboard.........................................   90.30
M0115     Apple Extended Keyboard................................  160.30

MACINTOSH II MONITORS AND ACCESSORIES

M0400     Apple High-Resolution Monochrome Monitor...............  279.30
             Requires Macintosh II Video Card (M0322) or 3rd party
             equivalent.
M0401     AppleColor High-Resolution RGB Monitor.................  699.30
             Requires Macintosh II Video Card or 3rd party
             equivalent. (M0324 recommended for expanded color)
M0402     Apple Two-Page Monochrome Monitor...................... 1204.30
             Requires Macintosh II Two-Page Monochrome Video card
             (M0260) or 3rd party equivalent.
M0404     Apple Macintosh Portrait Display ......................  769.30
             Requires Macintosh II Portrait Display Video card
             (M0119) or 3rd party equivalent.
M0504     Macintosh II 1bit Video Card ..........................  139.30
M0322     Macintosh II 4bit Video Card...........................  350.00
M0324     Macintosh II 8bit Video Card...........................  455.00
M0119     Macintosh II Portrait Display Video Card...............  420.00
M0260     Macintosh II Two-Page Monochrome Video Card............  420.00
M0213     Macintosh II Video Card Expansion Kit  (4 bit).........   79.30
             Requires installation by a Level I Service
             Technician or authorized Apple dealer.


MACINTOSH DRIVES AND ACCESSORIES
  Internal drives require installation by a Level I Service Technician
  or authorized Apple dealer.

A9M0106   Apple 3.5 Drive........................................  300.30


IMAGEWRITER PRINTERS and PRINTER SUPPLIES

A9P0329   ImageWriter II Printer w/Cable (M0197).................  393.00
A9G0331   ImageWriter II Color Ribbon (box/6)....................   58.59
A9G0335   ImageWriter LQ Black Ribbon (box/6)....................   79.80
A9G0336   ImageWriter LQ Color Ribbon (box/6)....................  105.00
A2M0077   ImageWriter I & II Black Ribbon (box/6)................   44.10
A9G0329   Scribe Color Ribbon Cassette (box/12)..................   50.32
A9G0328   Scribe Black Ribbon Cassette (box/12)..................   41.92


LASERWRITER PRODUCTS

M6200/A   LaserWriter IISC w/Letter Cassette & Toner Cartridge... 1819.00
M6210     LaserWriter IINT w/Letter Cassette & Toner Cartridge... 2969.00
M6215     LaserWriter IINTX w/Letter Cassette & Toner Cartridge.. 3959.00
M0137     LaserWriter II Letter Cassette.........................   62.30
M0139     LaserWriter II Legal Cassette..........................   62.30


A fee of $35.00 per order will be charged for shipping and handling.
State sales tax applies to all individual orders.

This price list supersedes all previous price lists.
There is a $300 minimum on all orders.

Updated 9/27/90 rjo
Mike Aos       "I own a Harley, not just a T-shirt!"  ['68 Sporty]
East Grand Forks, MN (yeah, it's COLD up here)      Are Amiga's really
(218) 773-9154                  | Woz  |                that bad?
UD182050@NDSUVM1 (.Bitnet?) |  Apple IIgs | "Share and Enjoy"
UD182050@VM1.NoDak.Edu    | (and Sun 2/120) | -Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
 I like to trade.    | 'till I can afford a NeXT |  (reserved for a Mac slam)
       "O captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
        The ship has weather'd every rack, the prize we sought is won,
        The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting."
                       _O Captain, My Captain_   -Walt Whitman

cs161fhn@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou) (10/29/90)

In article <90301.110203CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu> CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu (Me!) writes:
>
>     Yes, students or teachers may get Macintosh for the higher educational pri
>ces.  But, do you ever think that, are all the people on the net all students o
>r teachers?  No, I do not think so; therefore, you can't really say what you sa
>id in the last reply.  Tell you what, I bought my Mac two years ago for $3000.0
>0 from a dealer.  Now, what you have to say about that?!!

Face it.  It's no use arguing.  Nobody on the 'Net is going to pay your price.
'Net people are just too shrewd and/or smart.  They are the types
that pay 10-40% less than what the average American pays for stuff
like this.  If they're not students (and therefore eligible for student
discounts or can't afford to pay standard going rate), they're
computer professionals and know the in's and out's of the business.
They're the type that shops in the Computer Shopper, goes to
Computer Swap meets, and assembles Sun Sparcstations from old DEC
parts :-).

Take my advice:  If you're looking for a quick sale, go to the 'Net.
If you after the best price you can get, advertise in the local
paper, ask around your friends if they know anyone who wants to buy
it,or post flyers on street corners.  Post to the 'Net if you want
(it's apparently free for you), but don't expect a flood of
responses if your strategy is the latter...

-- 
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dlou@ucsd.edu         | "Then I'd be crazy to think any other way!"
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UD041948@NDSUVM1.BITNET (10/29/90)

In article <90301.110203CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu>, Me! <CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>     Yes, students or teachers may get Macintosh for the higher educational
>pri
>ces.  But, do you ever think that, are all the people on the net all students
>o
>r teachers?  No, I do not think so; therefore, you can't really say what you
>sa
>id in the last reply.  Tell you what, I bought my Mac two years ago for
>$3000.0
>0 from a dealer.  Now, what you have to say about that?!!
>
>
> :<)= :/) '-) P-) ;-) :-" :-v :-V :-W :-r<:-O :-T :-D :-[ =|:-)= 7:) :-# :-i
> :-o #:-o |-( :^) :-[#] (:-$ (:-&
> -) +<:-| [0-) (:-|K- ||*( ||*)        \/~              Chih-Chuan Chu (James)
> (:>-< /= - > ? (O--<                 (@ @)     BitNet: CCC105@PSUVM
> ?-( *:* *:** <:-)<<|                   %     InterNet: CCC105@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
> <&&> < >< B|^2B [:-)] ..---..          O        Phone: (717) 586-7580
> (:-( (:^( :<) -(=) &:-) &:-) @:-)
> :/i :-I :-x :-> :-( :-c :-< :-| :-? <:>== :*) :-8 (:-) <:-) :_) B-) 8-) #:-)

I guess I'd have to say I really don't CARE what you paid for it.  I was just
trying to tell you what it's WORTH....

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Mike Aos       "I own a Harley, not just a T-shirt!"  ['68 Sporty]
East Grand Forks, MN (yeah, it's COLD up here)      Are Amiga's really
(218) 773-9154                  | Woz  |                that bad?
UD182050@NDSUVM1 (.Bitnet?) |  Apple IIgs | "Share and Enjoy"
UD182050@VM1.NoDak.Edu    | (and Sun 2/120) | -Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
 I like to trade.    | 'till I can afford a NeXT |  (reserved for a Mac slam)
       "O captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
        The ship has weather'd every rack, the prize we sought is won,
        The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting."
                       _O Captain, My Captain_   -Walt Whitman

isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account) (10/30/90)

In article <90301.110203CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu> Me! <CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes
 >   Yes, students or teachers may get Macintosh for the higher educational pri
>ces. But, do you ever think that, are all the people on the net all students o
>r teachers? No, I do not think so; therefore, you can't really say what you sa
>id in the last reply.  Tell you what, I bought my Mac two years ago for $3000.
>0 from a dealer.  Now, what you have to say about that?!!
 >-) +<:-| [0-) (:-|K- ||*( ||*)        \/~              Chih-Chuan Chu (James)
 >(:>-< /= - > ? (O--<                 (@ @)     BitNet: CCC105@PSUVM
 >?-( *:* *:** <:-)<<|                   %     InterNet: CCC105@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
 ><&&> < >< B|^2B [:-)] ..---..          O        Phone: (717) 586-7580
What do I think about that??
Well I think it's damn stoopiid!
Why didn't you offer some college kid $300 to buy
the SE for you?
(and then pocket the $1000 difference)
And if warranty was your concern, well I
think that 90 days of AppleCare costs
a LOT less than 1000$

-- 
Mike Schechter, Computer Engineer,Institute Sensory Research, Syracuse Univ.
InterNet: Mike_Schechter@isr.syr.edu isr@rodan.syr.edu Bitnet: SENSORY@SUNRISE 

rdd@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Dorsett) (10/30/90)

In article <1990Oct29.175651.21468@rodan.acs.syr.edu> isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account) writes:
>Why didn't you offer some college kid $300 to buy
>the SE for you?

Can you say "conspiracy to commit fraud"?

Good, I knew you could. :-)




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ae219fl@prism.gatech.EDU (Fu-Lin Tsung) (10/31/90)

>Well I think it's damn stoopiid!
>Why didn't you offer some college kid $300 to buy
>the SE for you?
>(and then pocket the $1000 difference)
>And if warranty was your concern, well I
>think that 90 days of AppleCare costs
>a LOT less than 1000$
>
>Mike Schechter, Computer Engineer,Institute Sensory Research, Syracuse Univ.
>InterNet: Mike_Schechter@isr.syr.edu isr@rodan.syr.edu Bitnet: SENSORY@SUNRISE 


   In our school, when you buy the computer, you have to sign an "agreement"
which states that you are buying the computer for yourself, not for a  non-
education related person.  If you turn around and sell the computer immediately,
you can get suspended and " stuff" like that.




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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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bytebug@dhw68k.cts.com (Roger L. Long) (10/31/90)

In article <90299.205100CCC105@psuvm.psu.edu>:
>if you check the *NEW* Mac Classic carefully, you will know that the
>*NEW* Mac Classic DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPANSION SLOT, which the Mac SE has!
>You can do many things with that expansion slot...
>(I just hate to see people give stupid offers for buying a Mac SE from some
>one with prices like $200, $800, $900.....  What a comedian......)

You really consider that the SE's expansion slot is worth that much?  The
fact that the Classic doesn't have an expansion slot speaks to exactly 
that point.  Apple says that 90% of current SE owners don't even use the
expansion slot.

You also have to look at the economics of buying a used SE and immediately
purchasing an expensive upgrade via the expansion slot vs. the cost of just
purchasing a more capable machine to begin with.  If you're looking for a
black and white machine with 68000-level performance, a Classic is the way
to go.
-- 
	Roger L. Long
	bytebug@dhw68k.cts.com

gd1a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Glen M. Devries) (11/06/90)

For sale:
            Macintosh SE
            Internal 20 megabyte quantum hard drive
            2.5 megabytes of memory
            Keyboard & Mouse
Comes loaded with software including the newest system release,
Hypercard 2.0 and many public domain utilities, games and applications. 

This computer is in mint condition and has never had any hardware problems.

$1000 or best offer. We can haggle about shipping. 

Respond via e-mail or call (412)268-4108 and ask for Glen or leave a message.

JIM.DANIELS@f1009.n124.z1.FIDONET.ORG (JIM DANIELS) (11/26/90)

I have a Mac SE 2/40 for sale
high density floppy
used for 1 month
 
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mgenius@wam.umd.edu (Sandro M. Fouche) (01/08/91)

	I really hate to waste bandwith on discussions of this sort, but I
would like to point out that the Mac Classic has a memory expansion slot.
This isn't the same as the SE expansion slot, but some bright boys at serveral 
different companies already make accelerators for that slot and some are 
planning video cards.

	And in all reality if you are going to buy a compact mac and want to
accelerate it or add video a used SE/30 is a much better platform.  Built-in
apple-compatible acceleration (they made it) and color quickdraw to boot.
The only real difference between the Classic and the SE is the 5% speed loss
on the Classic.  And if you install just on stupid init (a la Stupid mac 
tricks) that'll go a away.

	So in all reality it's probably a fair comparison.... I'd rather have
a one year warrenty on my equipment than a expansion slot I might never use)

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quan@sol.surv.utas.oz (Stephen Quan) (01/08/91)

mgenius@wam.umd.edu (Sandro M. Fouche) writes:
[comparison between Mac Classic and SE]

Ok then, what sort of price range do SE owners have to go down to, to make
there SE and attractive sale?

gsm@gsm001.uucp (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) (01/13/91)

jfr@locus.com (Jon Rosen) wrote about the street prices of old MACS:

>(pretty sad, huh?)...


No, its not sad.  Think of it as evolution in action.  Everyone was
complaining that MAC prices were too high.  Finaly Apple did something
about it.  

What kept the prices of MAC's high was that:

1. Apple was the only source.
2. Apple had you hooked on a MAC.   There are many other computers on the
   market, but the people who bought MACs wanted the particular combination
   that the MAC offered.

Apple came to the realization that the people who wanted MACs and were willing
to pay two to three times the price of an IBM clone for equivalent processing
capability, would no longer make the MAC a "growth" industry.

With WINDOWS 3.0, to the computer neophyte, an IBM is equivalent to a MAC II.
The P.S. I, with color monitor and a hard disk are a very attractive
combination especially if your sum total computer experience is gleaned at the
computer department of Sears.

So Apple, in order to grow, had to lower their prices.

The resultant loss in value of used MACs naturaly came along.

Now if only SAAB or Dalmier (Mercedes Benz) would follow Apple's lead.
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6600dtam@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (DogCow) (04/27/91)

For SALE:

	Mac SE 2.5Mb RAM
	Megascreen Moniterm 2-Page B&W Display
	30Mb Internal HD

Accessories:
	Mac 101 keyboard
	MacTrac trackball	

Best offer.

Replies:
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tka4092@athena.mit.edu (Terry Alkasab) (04/29/91)

I have a Macintosh SE for sale or trade.  

Features:

	20 Megabtye Internal Apple Installed Hard Drive
	2.5 Megabyte of 80ns RAM
	800K Internal Drive (came with it)
	Extended Keyboard (with handy function keys for macros)
	68000 processor running at 7.16 MHz

This is a *very* nice machine, which has served me faithfully, and the
only reason I am willing to part with it is that I want to get an
Amiga.  It comes with the following software with documentation:\

	Borland's Eureka! for math equation-solving
	Microsoft Word v. 3
	SuperPaint
	Eqn equation formatter
	Hypercard
	
plus all system software and documentation.

I am looking for $1100 o.b.o. or a comparable Amiga 2000 system (hard
drive and at least 2M of RAM) for the system.

Make me an offer.

Terry Alkasab
tka4092@athena.mit.edu
(617) 225-9725