nick@cs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) (05/29/91)
When I was across in the US I had a chance to flick through a MacWarehouse
catalogue. Cor, all this Mac software... over here, I can get MS Word or
perhaps even MS Word, and that's about it unless I look for an official
Apple dealer (I've now found three) and pay through the nose. So,
do any of the US-based software distributors run mail-order to Europe?
What I'm after ideally is a place that sends out quarterly (say) catalogues
for free or some nominal charge, accepts orders by fax or phone against VISA
cards, and ships UPS overseas. I'm sure there's a market over here for US
Mac software at your ridiculously low US prices...
Nick.
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In article <11632@skye.cs.ed.ac.uk> nick@lfcs.ed.ac.uk writes:
#What I'm after ideally is a place that sends out quarterly (say) catalogues
#for free or some nominal charge, accepts orders by fax or phone against VISA
#cards, and ships UPS overseas. I'm sure there's a market over here for US
#Mac software at your ridiculously low US prices...
#
# Nick.
I've done some business with MacWarehouse in the past. They will send you
a catalogue on request (phone USA-1-201-367-0440). Shipping is via UPS. It
usually takes between 3 and 5 days for the goods to arrive in Europe. The
prices are *very* competative, even *with* the most expensive way of shipping!
Fax orders can be send to USA-1-201-905-9279.
Just a satisfied customer,
--kees
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From article <1607@nikhefk.UUCP>, by keeshu@nikhefk.UUCP (Kees Huyser): > I've done some business with MacWarehouse in the past. They will send you > a catalogue on request (phone USA-1-201-367-0440). Shipping is via UPS. It > usually takes between 3 and 5 days for the goods to arrive in Europe. The > prices are *very* competative, even *with* the most expensive way of shipping! > Fax orders can be send to USA-1-201-905-9279. > > Just a satisfied customer, Warning: 201-367 and 201-905 have been moved from 201 to the new 908 area code. You can use the 908 now, and after June 30 you MUST use it, so update your address book now. -- =Ned Horvath= ehorvath@attmail.com
Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f421.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org (Charlie Mingo) (05/31/91)
nick@cs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:
NR> When I was across in the US I had a chance to flick through a MacWarehouse
NR> catalogue. Cor, all this Mac software... over here, I can get MS Word or
NR> perhaps even MS Word, and that's about it unless I look for an official
NR> Apple dealer (I've now found three) and pay through the nose. So,
NR> do any of the US-based software distributors run mail-order to Europe?
NR>
NR> What I'm after ideally is a place that sends out quarterly (say) catalogues
NR> for free or some nominal charge, accepts orders by fax or phone against VISA
NR> cards, and ships UPS overseas. I'm sure there's a market over here for US
NR> Mac software at your ridiculously low US prices...
While I encourage you to obtain all the s/w you can from MacWarehouse (or,
better yet, MacConnection: +1 603 446-7711; fax +1 603 446-7791), you may run
into trouble trying to do this. Symantic recently sent me a catalog with a long
warning about doing what you propose...
"INTERNATIONAL SOFTWARE AVAILABLE FOR OVERSEAS USE"
"Computer users outside the United States and Canada sometimes don't have as
many sources of software as their counterparts in North America. For that reason,
people on this continent occasionally try to send software to their friends
abroad. While that spirit of generousity is admirable, computer users in the
United States and Canada should be aware that sending domestic software abroad is
always a bad idea, and is often also illegal.
"During the past few months, Symantic has been alerted to a number of
private shipments containing its software that were stopped by US Customs on the
way to destinations overseas. Though most Symantic packages distributed in the
United States and Canada have bold notices signalling that they are for use only
in North America, some customers are trying to export them anyway -- only to find
that they not only face a fine but may never even see their products again.
"These products are limited to this continant for several reasons. In some
cases, the technology incorporated in these these products (such as the
encryption information in The Norton Utilities) cannot be distributed
internationally without a license from the US Department of State [actually
Dept. of Commerce]. In other cases, allowing shipments directly from North
America undermines the market for local dealers, thereby decreasing the amount of
service and support available in that region."
[It goes on to describe a Symantic program to swap domestic for
international versions of Symantic s/w for people who have purchased the wrong
type.]
I don't know if MacWarehouse or MacConnection pay any attention to export
restrictions, but if your shipment is seized and confiscated by US Customs, don't
say you were never warned....
* Origin: "Up to a point, Lord Copper" -- Waugh (1:109/421.4218)Angus.Fox@UK.Sun.COM (Angus Fox) (05/31/91)
In article <675640814.3@blkcat.FidoNet> Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f421.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org (Charlie Mingo) writes: > but if your shipment is seized and confiscated by US Customs, don't > say you were never warned.... I'd like to see US Customs stop an international 'shipment' of software from comp.binaries.mac. Just goes to show what a farcical situation it is. Anybody in the world can mail me the DES algorithm or I can go to my local library and buy a book on how to implement it. But its illegal to export the US version of SUM (not picking on Symantec - just an example) to me here in the UK. Who exactly is being protected here. Angus Fox Sun Microsystems Europe Inc - Sitka Internet:Angus.Fox@uk.Sun.com Janet:Angus.Fox@sun.co.uk AppleLink:SITKAEUROPE Phone: +44 276 51440 Disclaimer: Anybody who thinks this is Sun's opinion or posted on their time is stupid.
philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) (05/31/91)
In article <1746@west.West.Sun.COM>, Angus.Fox@UK.Sun.COM (Angus Fox) writes: |> In article <675640814.3@blkcat.FidoNet> |> Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f421.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org (Charlie Mingo) writes: |> > but if your shipment is seized and confiscated by US Customs, don't |> > say you were never warned.... |> |> I'd like to see US Customs stop an international 'shipment' of |> software from comp.binaries.mac. |> |> Just goes to show what a farcical situation it is. Anybody in the world |> can mail me the DES algorithm or I can go to my local library and buy a |> book on how to implement it. |> |> But its illegal to export the US version of SUM (not picking on Symantec - |> just an example) to me here in the UK. Who exactly is being protected here. Surely not the hardware / software manufacturers, who must really hate the fact that they are forced to sell at double the price in Europe. At least Apple's UK pricing is now alleged to be more in line with US pricing. -- Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
roh@gmdzi.gmd.de (Peter Rohleder) (06/03/91)
In article <11632@skye.cs.ed.ac.uk>, nick@cs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes: > When I was across in the US I had a chance to flick through a MacWarehouse > catalogue. Cor, all this Mac software... over here, I can get MS Word or > perhaps even MS Word, and that's about it unless I look for an official > Apple dealer (I've now found three) and pay through the nose. So, > do any of the US-based software distributors run mail-order to Europe? > > What I'm after ideally is a place that sends out quarterly (say) catalogues > for free or some nominal charge, accepts orders by fax or phone against VISA > cards, and ships UPS overseas. I'm sure there's a market over here for US > Mac software at your ridiculously low US prices... > I had the chance getting in contact with a few US-mail-order software houses. The best of all: you can reach them via e-mail. They have an account on CompusServe or AppleLink and it is very easy to make your order from your terminal. You probably know that there is a gateway between the InterNet on the one side and CompuServe or AppleLink on the other side. I think they accept all major credit cards. The numbers are: MacsPlace 76635.660@compuserve.com MacZone 73667.3636@compuserve.com ComputerWare X0996@AppleLink.Apple.COM I hope that the numbers still work, especially the contact to MacZone has been a longer time ago, I think it was last year in spring. Peter Rohleder --------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Rohleder, roh@gmdzi.UUCP, (+49 2241) 14-2208 German National Research Center for Computer Science (GMD) Schloss Birlinghoven, P.O.Box 1240, D-5205 St. Augustin 1, FRGermany ---------------------------------------------------------------------