hemmat@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (06/06/90)
In article <1990May14.215409.16644@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, shimmin@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (John Shimmin) writes: > In article <21069@boulder.Colorado.EDU> > huntert@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Tim Hunter) writes: >>The recent article on hairlines in Mac programs reminded me of something I'd >>like to be able to do: >> >>I know that Adobe Illustrator (or is it Aldus Freehand?) saves it's files as >>postscript code. I'd like to be able to get this type of output for other >>programs, such as Pagemaker or Excel. If I could get a text file of postscipt >>code from these applications, then I'd be able to send it to the local unix >>.... >> Tim Hunter University of Colorado, Boulder >> huntert@tramp.Colorado.EDU 'I really don't like lobster!' > A little documented feature of macs is that if you hold down the 'k' key > after you send the print command, you will generate a postscript text > file. i'm not sure if it matters what printer you have selected with > the chooser. The times I have tried it, a laser printer was selected, > but it seems like it might work independently of the chosen printer. > ------ > John Shimmin > shimmin@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu I have tried holding down the "k" key after sending a file to the laser-printer, and successfully generated a psc file. I then tried to laser-print this fie from an IBM PC, after transferring it of course, using TOPS and was not successful at all. I have received no error messages, no output, nothing what-so-ever. Is the Mac's generateed postscript different from standard postscript? and if it is, is there any way to convert one to another? Any pointers/help will be appreciated. All I am trying to do is to generate standard postscript files from Mac applications and be able to send them to a laser printer via main-frames. Thanks in advance. M. Hemmat -- Hemmat@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Hemmat@ukanvax.bitnet
wsinkees@lso.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing) (06/06/90)
hemmat@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: > I have tried holding down the "k" key after sending a file >to the laser-printer, and successfully generated a psc file. I then >tried to laser-print this fie from an IBM PC, after transferring it >of course, using TOPS and was not successful at all. I have received >no error messages, no output, nothing what-so-ever. > Is the Mac's generateed postscript different from standard >postscript? and if it is, is there any way to convert one to another? >Any pointers/help will be appreciated. All I am trying to do is to >generate standard postscript files from Mac applications and be able >to send them to a laser printer via main-frames. >Thanks in advance. This is in principle the way. Although I do it with command-f. On our Postscript printers -- connected to a network --, however, things go wrong, for some reason or the other. We have a program called "mcvert" which removes the problematic things *and* adds the Apple macros. These are added by the command-k trick. So I save with command-f, get a postscript file without macros, which is considerably smaller, and send it to the Unix machine, convert it with mcvert and spool it to the laserprinter. Works perfect, especially if you use the standard Adobe fonts (Helvetica, Palatino, etc). I have the C-source of mcvert, I don't know whether it is free. Ask me. -- Kees Huizing - Eindhoven Univ of Techn - Dept Math & Comp Sc - The Netherlands DOMAIN: wsinkees@win.tue.nl BITNET: wsdckeesh@heitue5 FAX: +31-40-436685
jbd@osf.org (Bruce Dawson) (06/06/90)
In article <1208@tuewsd.win.tue.nl>, wsinkees@lso.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing) writes: > I have the C-source of mcvert, I don't know whether it is free. Ask me. I know I'd be interested in a copy of mcvert, and I'm sure anyone who's had this problem would also be interested. How about posting a copy in comp.misc.sources? --Bruce
cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) (06/06/90)
jbd@osf.org (Bruce Dawson) writes: }In article <1208@tuewsd.win.tue.nl>, wsinkees@lso.win.tue.nl (Kees }Huizing) writes: }> I have the C-source of mcvert, I don't know whether it is free. Ask me. }I know I'd be interested in a copy of mcvert, and I'm sure anyone who's }had this problem would also be interested. How about posting a copy in }comp.misc.sources? There's another package, called 'macps' that does the same thing. I just ftp'ed a copy from some system . Here's the notice that came with the copy I've got... perhaps someone could comment on where the info-mac archive lives.. Although he says it was posted to comp.sources.unix, and so it should be available in the uunet archives of same. /Bernie\ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 89 11:07:00 PST From: edmoy@violet.berkeley.edu To: info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Subject: New version of macps/prepfix (2.2) [Note to info-mac moderator: This version replaces the current version in the info-mac/unix directory. Thanks. Ed] I've just posted the latest version of macps & prepfix (2.2) to comp.sources.unix and comp.sources.mac and it should soon be available by anonymous ftp from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, in the info-mac/unix directory. Here is a brief description: Macps is a Unix program that takes an uploaded PostScript file created on a Macintosh (by typing Command-F at the LaserWriter dialog box) and includes an appropriately modified LaserPrep file so that the result can be sent to a PostScript printer from Unix. Since the Apple LaserPrep files are copyrighted, I've included a program, prepfix, that reads version 4.0 and up LaserPrep files, and edits them so that they are compatible with macps, and are even electronically mailable. CHANGES IN VERSION 2.2 Version 2.2 of macps/prepfix adds support of LaserWriter 6.0, and contains some minor bug fixes. Printing under NeXT 1.0 to the NeXT laser printer works well for LaserWriter 4.0 - 5.2 (except for the inherent problems of printing patterns at 400 dpi), but under LaserWriter 6.0, some things just don't print, and I don't know why (the exact same file prints fine on a LaserWriter). Edward Moy Principal Programmer - Macintosh & Unix Workstation Support Services Workstation Software Support Group University of California Berkeley, CA 94720 edmoy@violet.Berkeley.EDU ucbvax!violet!edmoy
cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) (06/06/90)
cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) writes: }There's another package, called 'macps' that does the same thing.... }I've just posted the latest version of macps & prepfix (2.2) to }comp.sources.unix and comp.sources.mac and it should soon be available }by anonymous ftp from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, in the info-mac/unix }directory. In fact this is correct (I just checked), you can just ftp the thing off of sumex-aim.stanford.edu [info-mac/unix/macps-22.shar]. It is 40Kbyts long, and so I don't think it need be posted here, but I'll be happy to email it to anyone who has trouble FTP'ing... /b\
tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele) (06/07/90)
A note about this command-F (or is it command-K) sequence: exactly *how* do you type it? I can't get it to work! Incidentally, if you use ResEdit to open up the LaserWriter and change DITL -8191 (as a DITL) item Disk File from 0 0 0 0 to 49 320 65 400, a nice check box will pop up instead. Tim -- tjfs@tadtec.uucp ..!uunet!mcvax!ukc!tadtec!tjfs Tadpole Technology plc, Titan House, Castle Park, CAMBRIDGE, CB3 0AY, UK Phone: +44-223-461000 Fax: +44-223-460727 Telex: 817316 TADTEC G
philip@Kermit.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) (06/08/90)
In article <TJFS.90Jun7165036@tadtec.uucp>, tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele) writes: > A note about this command-F (or is it command-K) sequence: exactly > *how* do you type it? I can't get it to work! > Type it right after hitting OK on the Print dialog. If it doesn't work, turn background printing off in Chooser. Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
wsinkees@lso.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing) (06/08/90)
jbd@osf.org (Bruce Dawson) writes: >I know I'd be interested in a copy of mcvert, and I'm sure anyone who's >had this problem would also be interested. How about posting a copy in >comp.misc.sources? The program we use is not mcvert, it's macps. I confused the names. Sorry. What is in a name? Which we call a rose Would smell as well By any other name. - Douglas Adams -- Kees Huizing - Eindhoven Univ of Techn - Dept Math & Comp Sc - The Netherlands DOMAIN: wsinkees@win.tue.nl BITNET: wsdckeesh@heitue5 FAX: +31-40-436685
wsinkees@lso.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing) (06/08/90)
tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele) writes: >A note about this command-F (or is it command-K) sequence: exactly >*how* do you type it? I can't get it to work! What works without any real-time assumptions is the following. Move the mouse pointer on the OK button. Press the mouse button, but don't release it yet. Press the command-key and the F key, don't release yet. Release the mouse button. Wait until you see a message saying that the file is not sent to a printer. (I get the message: "Why don't you buy a Postscript printer?" -- is this a joke from Apple?) Then release the keys. This even works from menus, like in Hypercard. (You don't get a dialog box there when you print. It just prints) You pull down the menu, select the option Print, keep the mouse button pressed, press the keys, release the mouse, etc. -- Kees Huizing - Eindhoven Univ of Techn - Dept Math & Comp Sc - The Netherlands DOMAIN: wsinkees@win.tue.nl BITNET: wsdckeesh@heitue5 FAX: +31-40-436685
mingyu@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Mingyu Wang c/o hsg) (06/08/90)
In article <TJFS.90Jun7165036@tadtec.uucp> tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele) writes: >A note about this command-F (or is it command-K) sequence: exactly >*how* do you type it? I can't get it to work! > This is exactly how I typed it: open the print dialog box, hold down the mouse button on "OK", press command-k and hold it down, release the mouse button, release command-k. Now my problem is that this sequence works on Mac II, not on MacSE/30. I speculated that in order to have it work, a printer has to be attached to the Mac. But if I have a LaserWriter for the Mac, probably I do not need the postscript file to be generated. comment requested.
edgar@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) (06/08/90)
In article <1213@tuewsd.win.tue.nl> wsinkees@lso.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing) writes: >What works without any real-time assumptions is the following. >Move the mouse pointer on the OK button. Press the mouse button, but don't >release it yet. Press the command-key and the F key, don't release yet. >Release the mouse button. Wait until you see a message saying that the file >is not sent to a printer. (I get the message: "Why don't you buy a >Postscript printer?" -- is this a joke from Apple?) Then release the keys. This does not work with MacDraw II. If you do this on MacDraw II, then after you release the mouse button, the command-F is sent to MacDraw, so the "Arrange" menu title hilights. Presumably MacDraw is arranging the layers of my document for me. I claim this is a bug in MacDraw, but Claris has not yet admitted it. In order to creat a Postscript document using this method with MacDraw II, you click OK normally, wait for the window "Printing pages 1 to 10" (or whatever), then immediatly hold down command-F (or simply F). Of course a better solution is ResEditing the Laserwriter file to show the check-box. -- Gerald A. Edgar Department of Mathematics Bitnet: EDGAR@OHSTPY The Ohio State University Internet: edgar@mps.ohio-state.edu Columbus, OH 43210 ...!{att,pyramid}!osu-cis!shape.mps.ohio-state.edu!edgar
davide@cs.qmw.ac.uk (David Edmondson) (06/08/90)
In <1990Jun7.230119.8449@Neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@Kermit.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) writes: >In article <TJFS.90Jun7165036@tadtec.uucp>, tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim >Steele) writes: >> A note about this command-F (or is it command-K) sequence: exactly >> *how* do you type it? I can't get it to work! >> >Type it right after hitting OK on the Print dialog. If it doesn't work, >turn background printing off in Chooser. Don't just type it, hold it down until you see the "Creating PostScript File" message. -- David Edmondson ARPA: davide@cs.qmw.ac.uk Dept of Computer Science JANET:davide@uk.ac.qmw.cs Queen Mary & Westfield College UUCP: davide@qmw-cs.UUCP Mile End Road AppleLink: UK0087 LONDON, E1 4NS, UK Tel: 071-975 5250 (Fax: 081-980 6533) DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000
philip@Pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) (06/09/90)
In article <20108@duke.cs.duke.edu>, mingyu@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Mingyu Wang c/o hsg) writes: > In article <TJFS.90Jun7165036@tadtec.uucp> tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele) writes: > >A note about this command-F (or is it command-K) sequence: exactly > >*how* do you type it? I can't get it to work! > > This is exactly how I typed it: open the print dialog box, hold down the > mouse button on "OK", press command-k and hold it down, release the > mouse button, release command-k. > > Now my problem is that this sequence works on Mac II, not on MacSE/30. I > speculated that in order to have it work, a printer has to be attached > to the Mac. But if I have a LaserWriter for the Mac, probably I do not > need the postscript file to be generated. No, you don't need the printer to be attached. However, you should turn background printing off in Chooser, making sure you have selected LaserWriter as the printer type (and of course you need to have Laser Prep and LaserWriter in the System Folder). Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
ls1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Leonard John Schultz) (06/09/90)
-A note about this command-F (or is it command-K) sequence: exactly -*how* do you type it? I can't get it to work! - -Incidentally, if you use ResEdit to open up the LaserWriter and change -DITL -8191 (as a DITL) item Disk File from 0 0 0 0 to 49 320 65 400, a -nice check box will pop up instead. - -Tim --- I am uncertain of where to enter this sequence. At what address in DITL -8191 do I put it at? I open as general, and I can't find the location! Len
sumner@usceast.UUCP (David Sumner) (06/09/90)
There is an INIT called LaserFix at sumex-aim that makes it much easier to get postscript output from the Macintosh. It sets up the checkbox 'Disk File' in the laserwriter dialog box - so that you don't have to use ResEdit. Checking this box is equivalent (but easier) to holding down the CMD+F keys after clicking OK. LaserFix also lets you name the files using a standard file dialog box - so you don't have to hassle with postscript0-postscript9 names anymore. David Sumner Dept of Math University of South Carolina Columbia, SC 29208
jim@ezx.uucp (Jim Littlefield) (06/12/90)
In article <20108@duke.cs.duke.edu> mingyu@romeo.UUCP (Mingyu Wang c/o hsg) writes: >Now my problem is that this sequence works on Mac II, not on MacSE/30. I >speculated that in order to have it work, a printer has to be attached >to the Mac. But if I have a LaserWriter for the Mac, probably I do not >need the postscript file to be generated. > >comment requested. I have been able to do this with my SE without an attached LaserWriter. I just turn on appletalk and use the command-K trick. -- Jim Littlefield == ...!uunet!ezx!jim == Sunrise Software Systems
takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) (06/16/90)
In article <8997@paperboy.OSF.ORG> jbd@virgin.mv.com writes: >In article <1208@tuewsd.win.tue.nl>, wsinkees@lso.win.tue.nl (Kees >Huizing) writes: >> I have the C-source of mcvert, I don't know whether it is free. Ask me. > >I know I'd be interested in a copy of mcvert, and I'm sure anyone who's >had this problem would also be interested. How about posting a copy in >comp.misc.sources? > >--Bruce If this is the mcvert I know about, it has NOTHING to do with Postscript. It is a utility to convert to/from Binhex format to MacBinary. It runs on Unix systems. If there is another mcvert out there, well....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alan Takahashi ! hplabs amdahl Northern Telecom Inc. ! \ / Mountain View, CA !UUCP: ...!{-----}!ntmtv!takahash ! | "When you need to knock on wood is when ! ames you realize the world's composed of !INTERNET: aluminum and vinyl." -- Flugg's Law ! ntmtv!takahash@ames.arc.nasa.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kath@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (William L. Kath) (06/17/90)
We have recently been exploring the different options for getting Postscript
output from MacDrawII into another application, namely PCTeX. (Their
Postscript printer driver allows the inclusion of other postscript files.)
We have tried macps (for unix) and DistillPS (for the Mac), but in the end
the way that seemed to work best was a set of LaserPrep files for
non-Apple postscript printers. One justs gets the Postscript file without
the LaserPrep header using command-F, and then appends it to the appropriate
non-Apple-laserprep. This file could then be included as is into a PCTeX
document.
Note that this method does not give the BoundingBox required for EPS;
if one needs that, then DistillPS or one of the other methods mentioned
recently in postings should be used.
We found all of the above via anonymous ftp from the Info-Mac archives
(sumex-aim.stanford.edu).
Bill Kath ----------------------- kath@delta.eecs.nwu.edu
Engineering Sciences and Applied Mathematics
McCormick School of Engineering, Northwestern University