[comp.sys.mac.apps] Is MacWrite 5.0 incompat with Sys 6.0.4 & newer?

omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (08/23/90)

Does MacWrite 5.0 break while running under System 6.0.4 or 6.0.5?

I remember, perhaps wrongly (wrongly?), reading an article a while
back saying that they were incompatible, and that Claris wasn't going
to fix the problem.  Claris instead said to upgrade to MacWrite II,
which worked fine.

The situation:  We've got a lab full of Mac SE's still running 6.0.2, with
a few copies of MacWrite 5.0 available on the file server.  We just came
up with a need to upgrade to System 6.0.5.  Will we need to upgrade to
MacWrite II?

-John
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peter@hari.VIEWlogic.com (Peter Colby) (08/24/90)

In article <5390@mace.cc.purdue.edu>, omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John
O'Malley) writes:
|> Does MacWrite 5.0 break while running under System 6.0.4 or 6.0.5?
|> 
|> I remember, perhaps wrongly (wrongly?), reading an article a while
|> back saying that they were incompatible, and that Claris wasn't going
|> to fix the problem.  Claris instead said to upgrade to MacWrite II,
|> which worked fine.
|> 
|> The situation:  We've got a lab full of Mac SE's still running 6.0.2, with
|> a few copies of MacWrite 5.0 available on the file server.  We just came
|> up with a need to upgrade to System 6.0.5.  Will we need to upgrade to
|> MacWrite II?
|> 
|> -John
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|> John O'Malley               / Macintosh  / Purdue University / (317)
|> omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu / Specialist / Computing Center  / 494-1787

I have a version of MacWrite 5.0 (might be 5.01 or 5.1 or something like
that) from Claris that works great on 6.0.4. As far as I can tell, Claris
is real good at writing software that works on ALL version of the OS after
whatever the minimal requirements state.

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rmh@apple.com (Rick Holzgrafe) (08/25/90)

In article <5390@mace.cc.purdue.edu> omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John 
O'Malley) writes:
> Does MacWrite 5.0 break while running under System 6.0.4 or 6.0.5?

I can't give you a generic answer, but I run a Mac IIfx with System 6.0.5, 
and MacWrite 5.0 has given me no trouble. I don't use it extensively, but 
it seems fine for everyday tasks like reading someone's memo, or writing a 
few pages of documentation.

> The situation:  We've got a lab full of Mac SE's still running 6.0.2, 
with
> a few copies of MacWrite 5.0 available on the file server.  We just came
> up with a need to upgrade to System 6.0.5.  Will we need to upgrade to
> MacWrite II?

Probably not. I suggest trying it out on one or two of your machines. If 
it doesn't work, either restore the machines to 6.0.2, or think about 
MacWrite II. (Or perhaps WriteNow - I think it will read MacWrite files.)

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clarson@ux.acs.umn.edu (Chaz Larson) (08/25/90)

>In article <5390@mace.cc.purdue.edu> omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John 
>O'Malley) writes:
>> Does MacWrite 5.0 break while running under System 6.0.4 or 6.0.5?

I believe the problem is with the spell checker.  As you run your file
through the MW 5.0 spell checker under System 6.0.4, it [the file] is
routed into oblivion, one word at a time.

I can't find the McWEEK this was described it, but I would think a call
to Claris would certainly produce the correct answer...

chaz



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omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (08/25/90)

Peter Colby (peter@hari.VIEWlogic.com) writes:
>John O'Malley (omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu) writes:
>> Does MacWrite 5.0 break while running under System 6.0.4 or 6.0.5?
>>   [John's thoughts about how he heard MacWrite would break
>>    in this situation]
>
>I have a version of MacWrite 5.0 (might be 5.01 or 5.1 or something like
>that) from Claris that works great on 6.0.4.

This is interesting.  I spoke with a person in Claris Tech Support after
posting my original note wondering if MacWrite 5.0 breaks under the latest
system software.

He said that MacWrite 5.0 has not been tested with System 6.0.4 or
6.0.5.  But he also said that MacWrite 5.0 is known to crash under those
systems.  The one specific problem he mentioned is that the spelling checker
can sometimes erase one's entire document.  MacWrite II, he said, has been
tested, etc. ...

Yet Peter in his above posting and three people in email messages all said
that they use MacWrite 5.0 on various Macs with System 6.0.4 and 6.0.5
without any problems.  (Thanks for your responses!)

I'm torn between using the word of someone in tech support, who presumably
has data to back up his claims, versus several people who have the setup
we need and report no problems.

Oh well.  In our particular situation, despite being more inclined to
think it'll work fine, we're gonna take the conservative & cautious
approach.  Our lab is going to have to do without MacWrite 5.0 for a while
so that we can upgrade the system software.  No big deal ...  all the
machines have Microsoft Word 4.0 anyway.

If need be, it'll be cheap to upgrade to MacWrite II down the road and
avoid the whole problem.

-John
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peter@hari.VIEWlogic.com (Peter Colby) (08/27/90)

In article <5404@mace.cc.purdue.edu>, omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John
O'Malley) writes:
|> Peter Colby (peter@hari.VIEWlogic.com) writes:
|> >John O'Malley (omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu) writes:
|> >> Does MacWrite 5.0 break while running under System 6.0.4 or 6.0.5?
|> >>   [John's thoughts about how he heard MacWrite would break
|> >>    in this situation]
|> >
|> >I have a version of MacWrite 5.0 (might be 5.01 or 5.1 or something like
|> >that) from Claris that works great on 6.0.4.
|> 
|> This is interesting.  I spoke with a person in Claris Tech Support after
|> posting my original note wondering if MacWrite 5.0 breaks under the latest
|> system software.
|> 
|> He said that MacWrite 5.0 has not been tested with System 6.0.4 or
|> 6.0.5.  But he also said that MacWrite 5.0 is known to crash under those
|> systems.  The one specific problem he mentioned is that the spelling checker
|> can sometimes erase one's entire document.  MacWrite II, he said, has been
|> tested, etc. ...
|> 
|> Yet Peter in his above posting and three people in email messages all said
|> that they use MacWrite 5.0 on various Macs with System 6.0.4 and 6.0.5
|> without any problems.  (Thanks for your responses!)

I guess I (Peter) must add that I only use MacWrite 5.0 for reading docs since
it somehow manages to get launched when I "open" an old format MacWrite file,
usually a downloaded "read only" version.

I use MacWrite II for document creation, editing, and spelling checking so I
have to admit that I have never used the MW 5.0 spelling checker on 6.0.4
(I did use it on 6.0.2 with no problems).

Sorry for the misleading information.

By the way, I believe that Claris shipped a third party spell checker with
MW 5.0.

        Peter C.

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